I have them on a 6" stainless Python and they are incredible.......got the grips from a Forum member, the style you do not cut the frame for.....years ago I had a 6" S&W M19 that I did lop off the front corner of the frame, felt a little ill doing it....once I started shooting the gun, never gave it a second thought....have had a lot of second thoughts about giving the gun away however. I always keep an eye out for those grips.....I'd buy a gun I did not own to fit the grips, that is how impressed I am with them. He was a retired LA cop if I recall, and died about 10 years ago.