I know the wooden Hogues require pin removal, so I though the rubbers were the same. Glad someone reads my threads!!!Hey Sae, I think they DO have to be removed. I have done some research and somewhere I read they are like some of the other revolvers mentioned in the instruction sheet, but the D frame is not listed. I have looked and looked. The 48000's are the only ones listed for the post 66 d frame...so