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1.What parts does one need to replace or adjust to reduce front/back cylinder play in Colt SAA?
2. What parts does one need to replace or adjust to reduce lateral cylinder play? THANKS
 

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1. A new cylinder bushing that is fitted will fix the end play. The barrel might need to be set back too. 2. An over sized cylinder pin usually helps the side play. The pin likes to wear the frame hole by the hammer.
 

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Brownell's also sell shims to adjust forward play. Lateral play can be the result of a worn pin. You might try replacing both the bushing and the standard pin. If you have to use an oversize pin, you'll have to ream both front and back holes, along with the inside of the bushing. This usually requires a lathe and you usually have to remove the barrel to do it. I'd send it to a Colt specialist myself before I'd attempt it.
 

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I may be confused about the previous postings but the bolt is what stops the side play in the cyl.-the rest of the postings are correct.
 

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The bolt would stop the rotational play in the cylinder; side-to-side or lateral play would be from slop in the cylinder bushing or cylinder pin being worn beyond spec.

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BTW, what generation SAA do you have? Replacing the cylinder bushing on a 3rd gen with the pressed in bushing is not an easy home repair.

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BTW, what generation SAA do you have? Replacing the cylinder bushing on a 3rd gen with the pressed in bushing is not an easy home repair.

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3rd gens starting in 1999 have a separate cyl bushing like 1st and 2nd gens. Brownells sells a tool to pull the pressed-in bushing on pre 1999 3rd gens to take up fore and aft play. Very easy to use and it works.
 

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1.What parts does one need to replace or adjust to reduce front/back cylinder play in Colt SAA?
2. What parts does one need to replace or adjust to reduce lateral cylinder play? THANKS
#1. The cyl bushing.
#2. above, please elaborate:

Do you mean rotational play when the hammer is cocked? Then you need to "stretch" the cyl hand (pawl) or install a new one.
If you mean the cyl has side to side play when the hammer is on half cock or on full cock, , it's the cyl bushing. Take out the cylinder and bushing and check for play between bushing and cylinder. Also remove bushing and put the cyl pin in it and check for side play. If you get play in either test, replace the bushing.

Oversize cyl pins and reaming the frame and bushing is a more drastic fix that's not usually needed.
To check the frame holes for wear, install cyl pin in the frame without the cyl or bushing and test for lateral play.

1st gen, 2nd gen and 3rd gen cyl bushings are the same and can be obtained from Colt and just about anywhere that sells Colt parts. Eddie Janis at Peacekmaker Specialists (805 238-9100) reproduces his own and sells for $11. His parts are as good or superior to Colt factory and he is a premium Colt gunsmith and restorer with national recognition. He has rebuilt Colt parts for me like original 1st gen hammers.

Jim
 

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Order a set of end shake bearings from Grand Master (Power Custom)

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That will cheaply and easily fix your end shake issues. Often when I have added them my "side play" seems to be eliminated as well. If not then do as mentioned and get a new cylinder pin. Look at a Belt Mountain.

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Hi Dan,

When you install these, do they just slip between the cyl and frame held in place with the cyl pin?

Or do you pull the pressed-in bushing on the pre 1999 3rd gens, put the shim in the cyl bushing hole and press the bushing back in on top of them?

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Hi Dan,

When you install these, do they just slip between the cyl and frame held in place with the cyl pin?

Or do you pull the pressed-in bushing on the pre 1999 3rd gens, put the shim in the cyl bushing hole and press the bushing back in on top of them?

Jim

Jim

Since the OP said he had a first gen gun that is why I suggested the end shake bushings. On guns with removable bushings the bearings go in under them. Just slide the bushing out, pop in the bearings, and re-install. Each one is .002 thick and you just keep adding them until the cylinder is tight. I have never had to add more than 2, and one usually does it.

I do have one third gen gun that Ron Power installed a removable bushing for me and I have the end shake "washers" under it as well.

I know Ron also sells them for Rugers, so I assume you can get them that install as you said, just on the pin in front of the cylinder. I would think that would be a bit of a pain when removing the cylinder.

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Dan,
Thank you. Yes they would be a pain on a 3rd gen w/pressed in bushing or Ruger. I think I would silver solder in place on front of a ruger cyl or under bushing and solder to it on a 1st and 2nd gen.
 

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Thank you. Yes they would be a pain on a 3rd gen w/pressed in bushing or Ruger. I think I would silver solder in place on front of a ruger cyl or under bushing and solder to it on a 1st and 2nd gen.
You wouldn't use the shims nor solder on a 3rd Gen gun with a pressed in bushing. The existing bushing would be removed using the correct tooling and a new oversize bushing installed that would then be fit to the frame opening.
 

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You wouldn't use the shims nor solder on a 3rd Gen gun with a pressed in bushing. The existing bushing would be removed using the correct tooling and a new oversize bushing installed that would then be fit to the frame opening.
Yes of course, but "the correct tooling" is the stumbling block for the do-it-yourselfer.
 

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With absolutely no disrespect at all here, the questions you are asking tell me that the job you are contemplating should be left to a good SAA specialist. You can do some serious damage to a SAA if you don't know what you are doing.

Bud


What's a fair price for a bushing? Where do the Brownell shims go- how do you put them in? THANKS
 

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With absolutely no disrespect at all here, the questions you are asking tell me that the job you are contemplating should be left to a good SAA specialist. You can do some serious damage to a SAA if you don't know what you are doing.

Bud
While fitting and installing a new bushing does take some "know how", the shims to remove end shake are very easy to put in the gun. I believe the shims sold by Brownell's are those made by Ron Power and all it takes to install them is removal of the existing bushing and slide the shim over it and slide it back into the cylinder. Add more shims if the end shake is still more than you want.

Again this is referring to guns with the full length removable cylinder bushing. Those 3rds with the pressed in button bushing take a little more effort.

Dan
 
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