Info Needed: Heiser 419

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BigRix

Discussion Starter · Nov 20, 2013

Picked this lovely Heiser up today and was wondering if anyone can give me any info.

How old, whats it worth, that kinda thing.

I see from the markings that it is for a S&W but I figured you guys would know.

Marked 38/44 Outdoorsman 6 1/2

It is really good shape.

Thanks for the help, ahead of time.

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WIL TERRY

· #2 · Nov 20, 2013

WELL, how much did you pay for it ??
There is nothing really rare about it.
That design has been in production by someone for nearly 90 years.
Some guys are really queer for these !!!!
It'd fit my 6 1/2" 38 OUTDOORSMAN to a T.
I have paid as little as $5.00 for one of these at gunshows.

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azshot

· #3 · Nov 21, 2013

It's worth between $5 and $100. It's a good maker, that made them for a long time. The rawhide wrapping adds to the appeal. I'd say it's from the 1950s.

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BigRix

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 21, 2013

Any one know how to date these Heiser holsters?

Any web sites?

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turnerriver

· #5 · Nov 21, 2013

Your holster was made prior to WW II. The snap was originally painted black around the outside. The various Heiser logo stamps are not reliable indicators of age- the elongated stamp on your holster is frequently cited as being a pre-war or older stamp but I have Heiser models that weren't introduced until the late 1940's that have that stamp. Generally the three H rivets were used up by the mid to late 1930's. the black and brass three H large snaps were used up by the mid 1940's and the brown enamel Heiser Denver snaps were post- war. Heiser changed their model number system during the first decade of the 1900's so that information helps date some holsters as well.Your model 419 is a desirable model made for a desirable revolver- while they may still be found in holster boxes for $5 or $10 a collector would be willing to pay $100-125 for such a holster.Regards,turnerriver

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BigRix

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 21, 2013

Thanks turnerriver,

I was just about to post that I thought I saw remnants of black on the snap.

I thought was it was Pre War so it's good to know my feeling was well founded.

Any suggestions for cleaning and/or protecting it?

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turnerriver

· #7 · Nov 21, 2013

I use Blackrock Leather N' Rich. Pecard Antique Leather Care is a good product as well.I think there are a number of good products on the market but I've had the best results with Blackrock. Regards, turnerriver

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rednichols

· #8 · Nov 22, 2013

turnerriver said:
Your holster was made prior to WW II. The snap was originally painted black around the outside. The various Heiser logo stamps are not reliable indicators of age- the elongated stamp on your holster is frequently cited as being a pre-war or older stamp but I have Heiser models that weren't introduced until the late 1940's that have that stamp. Generally the three H rivets were used up by the mid to late 1930's. the black and brass three H large snaps were used up by the mid 1940's and the brown enamel Heiser Denver snaps were post- war. Heiser changed their model number system during the first decade of the 1900's so that information helps date some holsters as well.Your model 419 is a desirable model made for a desirable revolver- while they may still be found in holster boxes for $5 or $10 a collector would be willing to pay $100-125 for such a holster.Regards,turnerriver

And I do believe Heiser credits itself with inventing this style of holster, which later became more associated with Hunter though everyone of the period (i.e., prior to 1960) made it including Lawrence, etc.

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