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I have had a Model M general officers pistol for some time and
wanted to get a nice rig to make a "set". A had an opportunity
to purchase this one a few months back. However, after close
examination, am wondering if it's original or part or all
reproduction. There are experts here who know these much
better that I do. I believe this is an early post war rig. The
box is supposedly what the holster was issued in.

By the way, no makers marks on the belt, holster or pouch.
I have the newer Brunner / Williams book and that helps,
but still not sure.

Opinions please? Thanks!

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ei8ht should know. I do not have anything to compare it too. Some of the stitching looks funny, but otherwise I sure can't tell.
 

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Mr. Colt:

Thanks for posting those pics. Your rig has the really beautiful
leather that was the correct type. Mine, unfortunately, does not.
I'm sadly beginning to realize that I likely have a repro. What
makes it even worse is that I bought it from a fellow forum
member (before I knew better) who claimed it was 100%
authentic.

One thing I see on yours that may not be correct. Based on my
research (I've been studying) your buckle is post war, not a
WW II. They changed the design after the war. A pic of both
styles is below. The top buckle is WWII style. bottom is post
war. Note the field of stars above the eagle -- that's where the
change was made:

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Authentic and original are not the same. Years ago I was going to purchase an "authentic" 1833 Ames artillery short sword. At the time, I had dozens of Ames swords, so I could recognize the makers marks. The "authentic" Ames, was priced correctly but the Ames markings were incorrect. I finally asked the seller if this was original and he said, "well no, it is an "authentic" reproduction." Needless to say, I did not purchase the sword, nor did I ever frequent the dealer again. I do not have enough expertise for this rig, but I am sure other people do. I would suggest the seller sold it to you in good faith, and not to deceive you.
 

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Mr. Colt:

Thanks for posting those pics. Your rig has the really beautiful
leather that was the correct type. Mine, unfortunately, does not.
I'm sadly beginning to realize that I likely have a repro. What
makes it even worse is that I bought it from a fellow forum
member (before I knew better) who claimed it was 100%
authentic.

One thing I see on yours that may not be correct. Based on my
research (I've been studying) your buckle is post war, not a
WW II. They changed the design after the war. A pic of both
styles is below. The top buckle is WWII style. bottom is post
war. Note the field of stars above the eagle -- that's where the
change was made:

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This pic is of my belts I took and posted to my Coltautos.com site. The top is a WWII belt and buckle and the bottom is Vietnam era. You are correct, I believe the buckle on MrColt45ACP's brown belt is later than WWII -- could be Korean War. WWII Brown belts are typically marked HICKOK [with belt size] in Gold, occasionally with the Quartermaster's mark in black ink. See the following page with example:

Colt 1908 Pocket Hammerless .380 ACP Military Pistol Issued to Major General Albert Eger Brown - Coltautos.com

Sam
 
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