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Very well done.
I would agree with the OPs conclusion.
That being said I’m a Pre 2002 Pre Lock fan and typically avoid
the newer lock guns however the 586 the OP used in his comparison is a beautifully finished gun.

586 no dash and a 2020 Python.

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I’ve since traded the 2020 Python, and purchased a 70’s vintage Blued 6” Python and all is well.
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I'm probably missing something obvious, but where is the bulge...?
Calling it a "bulge" isn't the best way of putting it, if I understand the reference. Viewed sideways, the slope of the frame from the rear sight to the top of the grip frame is much more shallow on the J, K and L frame lock equipped guns than those without. Very noticeable on the J frames, not apparent on an N frame - and the X frame is so damn ugly it would be like noticing wrinkles on Rondo Hatton.

On the one hand I guess we're not supposed to care about such things. On the other, I put it in with nice bluing vs spray paint finish, laser "checkering vs the real thing". Or the right Colt medallions. And so on.

Not just the lock, but an accumulation of changes and economizing of new Smith & Wessons makes them unappealing to me. They no longer fit my reasons for buying guns.
 
I love finally having a Python again. The following picture left to right 29-3 - 8 3/8", 2012 - 29 classic, 2020 586 classic, and Python along with Python grips from 1960 which because of the external checkering are actually the largest of all four hand grips. The only complaint I heard when I bought my 29 classic was the handgrips being much smaller than the original as shown in my picture. I love all and would not sell a one
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I think your best option would be to get some hogue or pachmayr wrap around grips. Honestly, I didn’t have any issues with it slipping in my hand under recoil with the stock grips. The King Cobra Target on the other hand has beautiful grips also made by Altamont, but are awful under recoil.
 
Unfortunately for me the Keylock would preclude me from owning one regardless of performance. Need to buy a non key lock 7 shot 686 for a project coming up.:) Must say I used to be a big S&W fan back in the day!
I have a S&W 66-3 ( late '80s to early 90's made ) that I "kind of" use in comparison for build quality and trigger feel up against the Python.
There's just NOTHING like that buttery smooth DA pull of the Python ( mine is 1963 made. ). Seriously. With the 66 you can feel the spots where the mechanics are changing. I can only surmise the pull on the '63 in DA is what made the Python a coveted pistol.
Both require little very effort in SA but what the lbs is for pulling I've no tool to measure-don't need one- but it'd be interesting to know. :)
Handling and shooting the 66 gives me the idea that it is a truck-meant to be used and abused. Tough.
The Python I consider more of a luxury auto that's pampered and well maintained.
Perceptions of mine. Or an opinion. And we all know about "opinions". :LOL:
 
The one thing that bugs me about the new Python is the length of the cylinder notch lead in grooves. Even longer than the old Python. It’s an aesthetic issue with me. They go damn near around the entire cylinder. ( but no room for a turn line) The Smith cylinder looks much nicer.
 
The one thing that bugs me about the new Python is the length of the cylinder notch lead in grooves. Even longer than the old Python. It’s an aesthetic issue with me. They go damn near around the entire cylinder. ( but no room for a turn line) The Smith cylinder looks much nicer.
My guess is this was to allow for more slop in the bolt drop timing / cheaper to time action.
 
Not having ever even seen a 2020 Python I can't comment on the Colt. But I do have a 6" 686-1 I bought some 35 years ago. I love that revolver and killed quite a few deer with it using the iron sights. It's as accurate as any revolver I've ever fired, very tight lockup and while the DA pull is a bit heavy it's very smooth and the SA pull is devine.
 
The 2020 Python just looks too utilitarian: no backstrap grooves (as above), lead in grooves too long, hammer and trigger look odd, sideplate screw not centered in recess, cheap rear sight. Laminate stocks. “Come on man” Not complaining, even though it sounds like it. I still would like a new Python. But there’s enough differences that maybe PYTHON II would be a better description. I’ll admit it, I buy a gun like I buy a car: how it looks is at or near the top of the list.
 
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The long lead in grooves in the cylinder are original to the Python design. I have a 1978 version that has the same thing. It must be a personal preference thing, I like how it looks.
 
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Having both an old and a new Python I am not at all disappointed. Like DarkLord said, the new Python is different but not inferior. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. The old pythons had better sights, better single action triggers and better finishes. The new Python has a better double action trigger, and if reports are true, stronger steel. With a little work from a gunsmith, the single action can be improved and compete head to head with the older Python while maintaining a better double action. Hopefully they can also withstand more magnum rounds before timing issues but only time will tell.
 
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