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I knew of all the other boxes and items he's been faking but didn't know he was doing these too. :bang_wall:

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---I have been lucky enough to find and purchase a limited Qty of these rare and hard to find boxes---They




 

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I do not think these boxes are intended to fool anyone. I think these boxes are for people who will settle for a reproduction box for their vintage gun. Nobody buys these to be genuine,, nobody. That's being realistic.
 

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I do not think these boxes are intended to fool anyone. I think these boxes are for people who will settle for a reproduction box for their vintage gun. Nobody buys these to be genuine,, nobody. That's being realistic.
The FBG once again never stipulates they are NOS Colt factory but they are so rare and hard to find, "look almost new and are in near mint condition" conjures up someone thinking "oh boy, genuine". At $145 a POP with your choice of labels in different calibers etc etc... Realistic, hardly, but more to the point is he's providing a $5 box and label for $145. Now that's the end game....anyone that would pony up that kind of money for a fake has definite issues I can't begin to address.
 

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Let me give you an example, he sells Camp Perry boxes for roughly a 150.00 bucks,, anybody who knows anything would know a Genuine Camp Perry box in pristine condition such as the boxes he is selling would bring 1000-1500 fairly easy. So the buyer who pays 150.00 dollars thinking he is getting a genuine pristine perfect 1500.00 dollar Camp Perry box in my eyes is the one with the issue not the seller.
 

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These boxes in no way hinder my pre war double action Colt collecting nor do they effect the temperature of the serious pre war Colt DA collector market. These boxes are not in my world nor do they effect my world.

These boxes are a novelty for people who just want a box for their old gun. The crispy bright box looks good sitting in the safe, its something once a year Uncle Ted can pull it out at Thanksgiving and show off. It never fails to go over on the Inlaws and Grandkids. " Year after year nobody at the dinner tables ever passes judgment on Uncle Ted for his ' questionable" maroon boxed 1930 police positive, they all just grin and eat their turkey. Ted, laughs on the inside and tells himself,, "Nobody has a clue, I'm batting a thousand." The end. ------------------ " that's the guy who buys these boxes"

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Let me give you an example, he sells Camp Perry boxes for roughly a 150.00 bucks,, anybody who knows anything would know a Genuine Camp Perry box in pristine condition such as the boxes he is selling would bring 1000-1500 fairly easy. So the buyer who pays 150.00 dollars thinking he is getting a genuine pristine perfect 1500.00 dollar Camp Perry box in my eyes is the one with the issue not the seller.
That may well be true, John. However, everything that this guy touches stinks to high heaven. He is just dishonest......period. And if he manages to snooker a few buyers he is the one who has issues, not the buyer.
 
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That may well be true, John. However, everything that this guy touches stinks to high heaven. He is just dishonest......period. And if he manages to snooker a few buyers he is the one who has issues, not the buyer.
His flawless feedback proves to me, his buyers know exactly what they are buying and they are content with his product. If these people were not getting what they thought they were getting, he would have hundreds of negatives. They know what they are buying.​
 

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RARE & HARD TO FIND: Oh please...

---I have been lucky enough to find and purchase a limited Qty of these rare and hard to find boxes--- Limited qty? Really? As long as you keep paying $5 and selling them for $150 they will always be available.
 

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These boxes were being sold on EBay by a guy who was making them and stated clearly they are reproduction boxes.Guess Vikrant has a new source for these "rare" boxes.I guess people either know they are fake or buy them to live in a safe with thier Colt and they never find out that the box is fake.
 

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These boxes were being sold on EBay by a guy who was making them and stated clearly they are reproduction boxes.Guess Vikrant has a new source for these "rare" boxes.I guess people either know they are fake or buy them to live in a safe with thier Colt and they never find out that the box is fake.
Yes I bought 2 off of "OZ" on ebay last year about this time because he clearly stated they were reproductions made BY HIM. NO DOUBT IN MY MIND these are made by OZ, and Vik is buying them in quantity off of him. I would not have bought them if they were advertised or implied as original as this POS always does. I bought them because I just wanted boxes to store a couple "Minty" scarce/rare pre-war revolvers, which didn't have the boxes I had, and they were only 75 bucks each. I know they won't "fool" anyone and am gald they won't. If they save one scratch on one gun, they had paid for themselves to me, quite a few years back I dropped a SUPER-RARE old MINT SMITH in a thick zipper case one time. Sad thing is I had the original box/all paperwork (it was NIB) and have no idea why it wasn't in it:bang_wall:. To this day I still have no idea why it was in that case and I'm the only one who knows the combination lol. It hit the bottom sharp edge of the safe, and REALLY MESSED UP the end of the muzzle. The gun hit perfectly straight down where there isn't any/little padding at the zipper with all the momentum from lying on the top shelf. I have since lined the end of the bottom of the safe :) lol. I still have the gun and I hide it in the back of he safe because I want to cry about every time I see it...
Anyway back on topic when I ordered the 2 boxes from OZ, which a bunch of forum members did also, mine started coming apart within a couple weeks. The vinyl/clothlike material started coming off. The glue was "a bad batch". I sent them back and it took, from the best I can remember, MONTHS to get it straightened out and new ones back. I thought I was going to have to file a complaint with PayPal, but at the last minute he came through and I didn't have to. Oz told me something about revamping his operation to put out better and faster boxes was why there was such a delay. I guess "the contract" had already been worked out lol. Oz seemed like a good guy, and I hate to see him dealing with this dud. Its sad to see Vik selling them for double (which I wouldn't expect any less, he never fails to disappoint:(), because they were really well made boxes and were of an "old type" like craftsman. They the most well made repop boxes I ever seen. I wouldn't buy one from Vik if they were a buck a piece, literally. If anyone wanted one I would buy directly from Oz.
 

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<div style="margin-left:40px">His flawless feedback proves to me, his buyers know exactly what they are buying and they are content with his product. If these people were not getting what they thought they were getting, he would have hundreds of negatives. They know what they are buying. </div>
I have to strongly disagree with this John, no disrespect intended of course, but I have alot of first hand knowledge of this guy. there is some stuff I know which I am not going to put out there for the simple fact, its kinda like "an ace in the hole" and I know he is watching. You wouldn't believe some of the stories he has told people lol. Some know what they are getting, the ones who buy his Python boxes,etc, to fake "NIB" packages and deceit people themselves. However there are alot of people who just don't know the Manuals, boxes,etc he sells are not original. I know of people who bought them as original, then found out much later they weren't and were mad. Back before I knew exactly who he was, I actually bought an original S&W box from him. One of the very few original items I ever seen him sell. I thought he was legit then. I ordered a large 1978 Python manual (he told me it was original) and when I got it, I could tell it wasn't of course. I contacted him and he told me he bought items all over the US from various people and sometimes he was taken himself. He didn't know lol. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he had his lips pressed to my *** the entire time and even offered me extra money back for "his mistake". I left positive feedback, but stated seller had sold me a Reproduction manual but quickly refunded my money, actually he sent my check back with a few bucks extra. He begged me to take that off about it being a reproduction, but I didn't. This is why he doesnt have negative feedback because gun guys give the benefit of the doubt and he kisses *** and gives their money back AND extra money when he is caught. He can do this because his profit margin is probably about 1000% or more on some items and he is a smart guy. He would make a great car salesman I bet. I'll bet he has had a few negative feedback but with the quantity he does, GB probably removed them for him. I've heard and know for a fact they do that for some sellers which do alot of sells (make them alot of money). On a similar comparison note, there are people whom are discussed regularly, with alot of feedback, who sell fake "NIB" packages and they have great feedback too. I know people don't know they aren't getting a real NIB Python, Keystones real Nickel Target Python package VS the fake one which sold is an excellent example of this. If they knew, they would have bought Keystones for sure. jmho.
 

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I stand behind the idea his customers know what they are buying. That's just my opinion. If he had a gross amount of negative feedbacks, then I may have a different perspective but his feedback is perfect.

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I stand behind the idea his customers know what they are buying. That's just my opinion. If he had a gross amount of negative feedbacks, then I may have a different perspective but his feedback is perfect.

John
Well, I have to agree with Big Gus on this one. A few years back when this guy was not so "well-known" I happened to purchase what I thought was a factory manual from him on Ebay. As soon as I got it, I let him know that to me it looked like a reproduction manual, not a factory manual. He apologized over and over and said he had no idea, however he would refund my money, pay the return postage, and a couple of bucks extra for my inconvenience.
I did not leave negative feedback.....I just let the entire issue slide. I'm sure most folks would do the same thing.
 
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