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Picked up a .380 today.

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Not my favorite finish and sadly the original pearls are destroyed but it looks like factory nickel and is very tight. I think it will clean up nicely. Pics aren't great, but they're what I could do.

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sweet looking pistola you have there. the nickle finish does look to be in good shape.
It's a shame that the pearls were damaged. The ones I have on a later M1903 have a backing, secured with screws, that sits in the "cutout" of the grip and these prove sturdier than the panels without the backing (both factory). I won't fire the pistol with old pearls to ensure against damage so I have factory black grips for that occasion. Could you show the Rampant Pony in the circle? The VP stamping, while small, should still exhibit the initials "VP" (serified) and I believe that year (1908) the top of the V to the right side of the P should be one straight line with a connecting line at the bottom as well. In 1917 the proofmark changed and some were very small. Reference is from Brunners book "The Colt Pocket Hammerless Automatic Pistols II". Sam Lisker has seen many more nickeled specimens than I but that one looks exceptionally well preserved for a 106 year old M1903. Not intimating it might be a refinish, but that VP marking isn't as crisp as it should be. Some old refinished pistols had remarkably crisp rollmarks/stampings but the VP always suffered. Nice pistol in any event. See if you can find some period correct hard rubber grips.

EDITED: I had .32 M1903 on the brain and not the M1908. Disregard my rambling ;)
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Better pic of the proof mark.

Yeah, bad pics. The VP is crisp as are all of the markings and edges. Looks original to me, if not I have some work for the guy who did it. Either way it will look a lot better after a good polishing. The aftermarket grips will look better after I take some laquer thinner to them and change out those awful medallions.

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Very nice looking .380, I know the broken pearl grips make you sick.
To be clear. Are you saying that some factory pearl grips came without the screwed on backing shoes?

To the original poster, nice nickel 380. Congrats on the purchase.


It's a shame that the pearls were damaged. The ones I have on a later M1903 have a backing, secured with screws, that sits in the "cutout" of the grip and these prove sturdier than the panels without the backing (both factory). I won't fire the pistol with old pearls to ensure against damage so I have factory black grips for that occasion. Could you show the Rampant Pony in the circle? The VP stamping, while small, should still exhibit the initials "VP" (serified) and I believe that year (1908) the top of the V to the right side of the P should be one straight line with a connecting line at the bottom as well. In 1917 the proofmark changed and some were very small. Reference is from Brunners book "The Colt Pocket Hammerless Automatic Pistols II". Sam Lisker has seen many more nickeled specimens than I but that one looks exceptionally well preserved for a 106 year old M1903. Not intimating it might be a refinish, but that VP marking isn't as crisp as it should be. Some old refinished pistols had remarkably crisp rollmarks/stampings but the VP always suffered. Nice pistol in any event. See if you can find some period correct hard rubber grips.
To be clear. Are you saying that some factory pearl grips came without the screwed on backing shoes?
My broken grips didn't. I wonder if that's partly to blame for their demise.

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Very Nice Addition to your Hammerless Collection.
Are you still looking for a Type-1 32?
My broken grips didn't. I wonder if that's partly to blame for their demise.
I dont believe that those are factory pearl, but I could certainly be mistaken.
Very Nice Addition to your Hammerless Collection. Are you still looking for a Type-1 32?
I am, do you have a lead, or one of your own that your willing to pass on? Thanks ei8ht.
I am in the possession of a few Type 1 16679, 17059, 29169, 45872 and 63060 all in various condition. Won't sell any but might use for trade + $ for early long slides especially 38 acp 1900's and 1905 45.
Consider PM
Won't sell any but might use for trade + $ for early long slides especially 38 acp 1900's and 1905 45.Consider PM
I have good leads on both of those. I'll keep you posted. The 1905 might be a reblue it's been almost a year since I've seen it.

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The 1905 seller blew me off, I think because I wasn't interested in giving him $900 for his reblued 1903 type I, old reblue, possibly factory but it is in rough shape. I wasn't interested in it a year ago and less so now. He wouldn't even tell me if he still had the 1905. Bridge burned I guess.
Could you show the Rampant Pony in the circle?
I missed your request the first read. Here you go. Remember though she is a .380 and the colt is not done in the earlier style.
A bit of good news, the left panel is not damaged! There is a chip near the thumb safety but it is a natural occurrence of the pearl and is filled with decades of gunk. Any suggestions on cleaning the grip will be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has a right side stock that doesn't have a mate I would be interested in purchasing it.
Thanks to all for your comments. Pics suck, I know. Nickel is difficult to photograph.

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My dad was into Colt SAA's. He got me interested at a young age. I loved the 1903's from 1st sight. I bought a nickel with pearl, in box when I was 15 or 16 at one of the Allentown PA shows, @ 1987 or 88' I sold it back to the same dealer 2 yrs. later to fund my 1st car. I own a few real nice blued 1903's now. But DAMN I wish I had not sold that 1st one.

Ooops I wrote 1903. My nickel plated one was indeed a 1908.
I missed your request the first read. Here you go. Remember though she is a .380 and the colt is not done in the earlier style.
A bit of good news, the left panel is not damaged! There is a chip near the thumb safety but it is a natural occurrence of the pearl and is filled with decades of gunk. Any suggestions on cleaning the grip will be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has a right side stock that doesn't have a mate I would be interested in purchasing it.
Thanks to all for your comments. Pics suck, I know. Nickel is difficult to photograph.
You are so very correct, I had .32 on my brain, apologies :)
I dont believe that those are factory pearl, but I could certainly be mistaken.
You are correct.

Sam
Well, there are a couple of things that have lead me to believe that she is a refinished .380. First there are a couple of waves in the slide, strangely they are identically located on either side of the slide but wavy non the less. Secondly the VP stamp seems to be half the size of those on my 1903 .32's, that one is confusing. Any input on that one? And third, there doesn't appear to be a copper substrate for the finish so I'm thinking its a hard chrome finish. I called Colt to letter but after he told me that he couldn't tell me the original finish and I'd have to wait for the letter, I figured it wasn't worth the gamble and lettered one of my .32's instead. I bought the 1908 at a fair price even for a refinish so only a little disappointed. Now if I could just find some .380 ammo! I never in the world thought that .32acp would be easier to find than .380acp, It makes me think that I should stick with collecting the 1903's and leave the 1908's to everyone else. If I can't shoot it, I don't want to own it. She's still a good looking pistol and whoever did the finishing work was a true professional.
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