[Snakeguy1]

Yes the elites always had the label On the blue shell and never came with a cardboard sleeve. If the box does not have the label you have to assume the box is not original weather the original owner tells you it is or not . It is just about the facts and they wouldn't be there to prove the box was original. I think for the 4" stainless version with no "original labeled" box Marc is right on with price.