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How much will a scratch spot de-value a nib colt saa?
Would it kill the deal for you?
Will it matter if its only on the one side of the trigger ?
 

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Without a photo it’s sort of a guess, but saying that the scratch is on the trigger, it shouldn’t be a problem to correct the issue. A bluing touchup pen could be all it takes ... or worse case, replace the trigger I suppose.
If I was a buyer, I’d try for a better price on the gun for sure, but no deal breaker, they’re too hard to find a SAA right now.
but as a seller, a scratch on a trigger is a much easier fix than anywhere else on the SAA’s exterior areas.
 

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Right side of trigger its bright and noticeable but to me i would call it a chigger bite,but i don't know how picky some collecters can be when buying,rest of gun is perfect and unturned/ unfired condition,a custom shop gun.
What is the fair price going rate $$ right now on a nib custom shop with the current ivory's even with the slight" oh shit whisky "scratch?
I tried to post pic but cant get it to go thru,would i have to have a photoshop account to post a pic?
 

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Any time a 'NIB' piece needs a 'correction' - the value drops - even something as simple as this.

For 'me' - I'd likely not bother, unless the piece was outstanding in some ephemeral way, as in excellent CCH - because I shouldn't have to fix anything brand-new originating from the so-called 'Custom Shop' and even though Colt will fix it at no cost, it still adds time and delays my use and enjoyment.

There 'are' other NIB SAAs, so I'd be looking for one of them - but that's 'me' - and I already own a number of them in all Generations, so I'm in no hurry.
 

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Any time a 'NIB' piece needs a 'correction' - the value drops - even something as simple as this./QUOTE]

It's going to cost someone time if not money to correct it. Either the time and money is invested to correct the condition or the selling price should be lowered to reflect such cost.
 

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Right side of trigger its bright and noticeable but to me i would call it a chigger bite,but i don't know how picky some collecters can be when buying,rest of gun is perfect and unturned/ unfired condition,a custom shop gun.
What is the fair price going rate $$ right now on a nib custom shop with the current ivory's even with the slight" oh shit whisky "scratch?
I tried to post pic but cant get it to go thru,would i have to have a photoshop account to post a pic?
It's going to depend on caliber, barrel length, and finish type. A 4.75" .45 will likely run more than most guns. Sellers are trying to get over $2,000 without ivory these days.

What is the seller's asking price? If it's a blue/CC gun, you can either touch up the trigger scratch or have the trigger replaced. If the gun is nickel, you have to replace the trigger or have the current one renickeld.

If it's a blue/CC gun, I wouldn't go too high unless it had really nice, rich case color.
 

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If this was me in your situation, I can understand the small scratch on a part. The revolver and parts have been handled many times. The parts are in small bins for the assembly person to pick from the bins. At any assembly area, there will be some marks that will get on a part and not seen by the assembly person/s. I don't feel it was intentional, just not seen when picked from the bin. This just happens when parts and pieces are handled by a person.

If the selling price is good, you like the revolver, use the mark as a "tool" to get the price lowered by the seller. It may work and it may not work. If this is going to be a shooter pistol, I would not worry about the spot; just put some Oxpho-blue on the spot and it will look fine. If it is going to be a collector piece to show off, the Trigger could be sent back to Colt for a replacement. The tough decision is the Colt SAA revolver on a dealers shelf is difficult to find today! Good luck with your decision.
 

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New SAA's are not easy to find and I don't expect that will get any better in the next few years. If it is a desirable caliber and/or barrel length and I was in that situation, I would try to get at least a $50 price adjustment. Then, I would disassemble the gun, send just the trigger to Colt explaining the situation and supplying the S/N and ask them to refinish it. You might be out $5 for the postage plus the wait time.
 

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Right side of trigger its bright and noticeable but to me i would call it a chigger bite,but i don't know how picky some collecters can be when buying,rest of gun is perfect and unturned/ unfired condition,a custom shop gun.
What is the fair price going rate $$ right now on a nib custom shop with the current ivory's even with the slight" oh shit whisky "scratch?
I tried to post pic but cant get it to go thru,would i have to have a photoshop account to post a pic?
Welcome to the forum.

If you can't post a photo, or even if you can, a lot of specific detail will help us help you.

The value of the revolver has a whole lot more to do with it's vintage, caliber and configuration which will swing its value $1000 one way or the other. The "chigger bite" on the side of the trigger lever doesn't even rate. By the way, it's more likely a spot of rust. Regardless, it doesn't count. That's a 5 minute do it yourself fix. Or not if you're gonna' shoot it. If you can't do stuff like that, see if they'll fix it to make a deal.

However, I would suggest a lot more studying before thinking about a purchase.

Would this be your first Colt SAA purchase? Did you get the serial # so we can date it for you? Was it in a wood grain box? Are the ivory grips noted on the end flap label?

It's most likely an early 3rd gen; only made in the custom shop. Many of those custom shop dogs never sold when new. This may help:

3rd gen quality variation periods
Here's my general guide to the 3rd gen Colt quality which has the greatest quality variances compared to the 1st and 2nd gen SAAs. Most Colt SAAs do not have an accuracy problem, they shoot good patterns, it's just that the point of impact is not always at the point of aim.

The very early 3rds with an SA suffix #80000SA, 1976 and early SA prefix SA01001, 1979 - 1980 are fine and compare well to late 2nd gens in quality; still having the trigger guard bevel, and proper barrel address font (instead of the later .22 Peacemaker font), but alas, no cyl base pin bushing any longer.

The peak of the worst period; about SA65XXX to SA705XX range, 1983-85 (pre strike production, strike in 1986), inspect very closely for:

Cyl end shake (fore and aft play), flattened hammer spurs, off center firing pins in the hammer, non-flush backstrap ‘ears’ to hammer base fitting, poor loading gate fit, crooked front sights, sloppy actions with more than four clicks, crooked rolled stampings on frame and barrel (sometimes patent dates on frame are missing altogether), murky case coloring, poor grip strap to frame fit, over polished edges or edges so sharp at front of frame you could cut yourself, etc., etc. Check cyl alignment with recoil shields. I've seen some cyls stick out on one side and in on the other side due to uneven finishing of the recoil shield. The cyl should be near flush on both sides. You know, several of us have reported this in the past. However the 3rds do still retain this 1st and 2nd gen feature. To be sure it's a little less pronounced as in the past, but it does remain. To see it easily, hold the gun as if you're aiming it. Now shift your focus from the sights to the top seam of barrel-to-housing and point barrel a bit to the right so the entire seam can be seen. You'll notice the seam is higher up on the barrel at the muzzle and the housing flute tapers wider towards the front.

Like all SAA features, the taper may vary from gun to gun.
Once the labor strike occurred in 1986, production was taken over by the custom shop and quality improved somewhat. Now having said all that, I have found an occasional decent gun in that 1983 thru the strike period.

After that period things start to improve with typically only one or two of the problems per gun but sometimes more, and sometimes none. The lousy backstrap 'ears' to hammer base fitting is still fairly common as are flattened hammer spurs. Once the SA in the serial number splits SXXXXXA in 1993, they continue to get better thru 1999.

Around #S26XXXA in 1999 the authentic removable base pin cyl bushing like 1st and 2nd gen guns is first re-introduced on the 2000 units made for the 125Th SAA Anniversary Model, with unused 2nd gen serial numbers. By post 2003 all production guns had it and cyl end shake is usually all but eliminated. Case colors really improve as well as fitting. Hammer spurs are correct as well as most backstrap ‘ears’ to hammer base fit. Now the guns are approaching late 2nd gen quality and do to this day.

However the trigger guard/front grip strap still does not have the bevel of the 1st, 2nd and early 3rds with SA suffix, or the wide loading gates of the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] gen and early 2nd gen, and probably never will again. The 2nds never had the 2 line short barrel address, although it is a unique shorter single line address than the other barrel lengths, or the 1/2" radius cyl flutes of the 1st gen. Even the post 1934 1st gens lost the case colored hammers and all vestiges of the front cyl chamfer. At least three pre c. 1936 features can be special ordered from the custom shop now on 3rd gens; CCH hammer, the 2 line barrel address on short barrels and the cyl chamfer (but it's not accurately done). Of course there's a one to two plus years wait. Hondo44

Good luck and let us know what you find out.
 

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Colt SAA 7-1/2 inch dark and shiny charcoal/carbonia blue /CCH in 44 special,colt ivory dust grips not the real old 100% cut tusk ivory,they do not have the little pony coin on them,custom shop box,made around 2000 -2016 maybe
I will have to find out ,priced around 2500,never turned beautiful mint condition.
Thanks to all bigtime for all the great help and merry christmas!
 

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That sounds pretty high for a 7.5" blue/cc SAA. Especially since the grips are not actual ivory. I'm thinking more like $1,600 to $1,800.

And merry Christmas!
 
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