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A few more Detroit Police marked guns.
S&W pre model 12 airweight with aluminum cylinder


Colt Cobra DPD kind rough but got it for almost nothing.

 

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Lou Eppinger's - in addition to being a firearms dealer in a previous decade or to is know for one other important piece of hunting gear...

The Red Devil Lure!
 

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Here is it twin. Not sure why there are two No. 295 and your letter shows May and this one show March. Are the order numbers the same? I know this one has been refinished but I don't think the butt number has been changed. Could you post a picture of the butt and a picture of the letter. Thanks

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First NYPD department wide authorized issue revolver per Theodor Roosevelt who was commissioner of NYPD then.
 

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First NYPD department wide authorized issue revolver per Theodor Roosevelt who was commissioner of NYPD then.
KMKColt, That inscription looks Very Factory for this period of time! Have you gotten a Colt letter? I am wondering about the caliber - is it in 32 Colt, 32 S&W, or the expected 32 S&W Long (as promoted by Roosevelt)?

I have had the attached Colt M1877 DA which was chambered for the 32 S&W Long.

32 S&W Long (a.k.a. 32 New Police) dimensions are below.

Bullet diameter .312 in
Base diameter .337 in
Rim diameter .375 in
Rim thickness .055 in
Case length .920 in
Overall length 1.280 in

The case length of the 32 S&W was only about 0.61".

The 32 Long Colt was also 0.920" in case length, like the 32 S&W Long, but had a base dia of only 0.318".
 

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KMKColt, That inscription looks Very Factory for this period of time! Have you gotten a Colt letter? I am wondering about the caliber - is it in 32 Colt, 32 S&W, or the expected 32 S&W Long (as promoted by Roosevelt)?

I have had the attached Colt M1877 DA which was chambered for the 32 S&W Long.

32 S&W Long (a.k.a. 32 New Police) dimensions are below.

Bullet diameter .312 in
Base diameter .337 in
Rim diameter .375 in
Rim thickness .055 in
Case length .920 in
Overall length 1.280 in

The case length of the 32 S&W was only about 0.61".

The 32 Long Colt was also 0.920" in case length, like the 32 S&W Long, but had a base dia of only 0.318".
No I haven't contacted Colt for a letter. I don't need one the gun is all original and has a badge number on the bottom of the grip. I also have contacts in NYPD who have the same type of firearm in the same exact engraving and markings. In fact they have offered to buy it for their collection and I haven't caved in. But I do have to say you have me at the caliber which I will need to check into for my own knowledge and factual info. Thanks for the suggestions it is appreciated.
 
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I assume this Colt 1903 pocket hammer 38 auto (apology to the revolver collectors) is from Wells Fargo and Co. Can anyone tell me what the "431" represents. This semiauto was shipped to Dunham, Carrigan & Hayden Co., San Fran, CA on March 16, 1912. 5 guns in shipment.

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The only "WF&Co 431" marking is on the right side frame, directly below the hammer. No such markings on the slide. It looks as thought it was struck with interference from the transverse hammer pin. See the WEL* FARGO red square below on the last picture.
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Marking near the WEL* Fargo red square below. Any idea of the reason for the stamping 431, except inventory? I've tried WF&Co sites for additional info and have hit road blocks. Anyone know sources for additional WF&Co pistol information?

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