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I always kind of wanted one of these things because they are kind of odd looking and S&W only made them for about 3 years. Also because Travis Bickle has one up his sleeve on a drawer roller in Taxi Driver.
There were four variations. The first was the model 61 which had no magazine safety. This was pretty quickly changed to the model 61-1 which had a magazine safety.
The third change in the model 61-2 was a removable barrel bushing nut at the muzzle. Previous pistols had barrels that were pressed in.
The final change with the model 61-3 (which is what mine is) was a forged aluminum frame. The previous models were all die cast aluminum. There were also minor changes to the disconnector and breech face. So the 61-3 in my opinion are probably the best ones. Anyway, kind of a neat and somewhat uncommon S&W.
I haven't fired it yet but I've heard they can be a little ammo sensitive. The only thing I don't like about this gun is it only holds 5 rounds in the magazine!
Seems like the engineers could have squeezed one more round in there since there are much smaller pistols in .22 and .25 caliber that hold 6.
If anyone else has pictures of Model 61s or info to share please do.





Here Travis Bickle is making his drawer roller device in Taxi Driver



 

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Oh also, mine is missing the plunger and spring for the cocking indicator. These are only held in by the left grip panel so are commonly lost. If anyone has a lead on where to get these let me know. I've seen the spring available but the plunger isn't.
 

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The barrel being mounted so low with the recoil spring being above the barrel is the reason why there is not room for another cartridge in the magazine, unless the grip frame were lengthened, which would make the gun too big for its intended purpose.

Jack First has reproduction cocking indicator pieces, but in blue only. For one of my nickel Models 61 missing its cocking indicator, I just polished the protruding end of the piece. I made my own spring out of spring stock.
 

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The barrel being mounted so low with the recoil spring being above the barrel is the reason why there is not room for another cartridge in the magazine, unless the grip frame were lengthened, which would make the gun too big for its intended purpose.

Jack First has reproduction cocking indicator pieces, but in blue only. For one of my nickel Models 61 missing its cocking indicator, I just polished the protruding end of the piece. I made my own spring out of spring stock.
Thanks Judge!
 

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You probably know that this design was based on the Piper Model 1908 "Bayard" from Belgium. You may not know that S&W made two prototypes in 1968 that were given a black epoxy finish and fitted with silencers. One was shipped to Frankford Arsenal and the other one's destination is unknown.
 

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You probably know that this design was based on the Piper Model 1908 "Bayard" from Belgium. You may not know that S&W made two prototypes in 1968 that were given a black epoxy finish and fitted with silencers. One was shipped to Frankford Arsenal and the other one's destination is unknown.
Yup I did know a about the Bayard design. I didn't know about the ones fitted with silencers. I'd love to see a picture of one of those.
Seems like it would be a good one for a silencer since the barrel sits so far under the line of sight.
 

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61 Escort

Good find :cool:


With some changes , then reintroduced later as the 422/622/2206 sport/target series back in the 1980's & 90's .
 

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Those are beauties. Both look NIB. Nice!
What series are they?
Those are series 3. When I heard they had been discontinued by S&W I remembered a local shop that had a few. When I got there they had these two left, with the last serial number of one being 91 and the other 94. I gave one to my dad and got it back when he died, and neither were ever fired.
 

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If anyone could share good pictures of the manual I would appreciate it. All S&W manuals used to be free downloads on stevespages.com but S&Ws lawyers contacted him and made him pull them all offline.
 

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A great, if unusual hideout gun - except that most of them are hiding out in safes! A little more archeology and I unearthed this 61-3 example. Should I mail the warranty card in?
 

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Just took it down to the range and put 15 rounds of Federal Game Shok ammo through it. Didn't go that well. One magazine fed and fired okay, two magazines had failures to feed and eject and several misfires. I have heard that these can be a little ammo sensitive so hopefully that is the only issue. One of the youtube videos I watched said CCI mini mags worked well so if I can find some of that I will try it.
Anything else I should look for? The recoil spring is pretty weak feeling to me. It's so easy to work the slide I can do it one handed using my middle finger. Should it be that easy?
The firing pin looks okay to me and there should be plenty of blow from the hammer. One of the unfired rounds looked like it barely had a mark on it though.

Edit: I just ordered a spring pack from Wolff which has a recoil spring and firing pin spring. It can't hurt to change them out I think.
 

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Being a concealed hammer type, I suspect that many of them have been stored for years/decades in the cocked condition. As with others of this type. I retract the slide slightly (before disconnector activation) so as to precent the firing pin from contacting the rear of the barrel when I pull the trigger. A snap cap would make it even easier. Wolff most likely is the cure. As to ammo, I have an equally ancient Sterling 302 .22LR that loves Sears brand waxed lead .22s and others not so much. But who made that, and these days where do you get it?
 
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