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The following shipments are recorded as being sent to E J Churchill, London in WW2.

X198 September 7th 1940, 539XXX-544XXX. Blue.

X100 Feb 25th 1941, 542XXX-545XXX. Blue.

X100 July 29th 1941, 546XXX-549XXX. Blue.

Interestingly the only purchase from E. J. Churchill by the Ministry of Supply was X200 September 16th 1941. This would seem to correspond to the 198 shipment of the 7th Sept, with a discrepancy of 2 pistols.

Some of these pistols have British ordnance markings of a broad arrow and small Enfield inspection stamp, some do not. I am trying to establish which of the three shipments have pistols with British military markings.It may not be limited to the first shipment.Therefore, if you have lettered a pistol and it was shipped to Churchill in 1940/41 I would be most grateful if you could post details of the date of shipment and if it has British military markings or not. You can PM me if you do not wish too post, I am keeping the survey anonymous.

I will need a reasonable sample size to be able to draw any firm conclusions.

I have visited E J Churchill in the UK but they no longer have registers relating to handgun sales.

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Alan David
 

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Alan, Here's one from the X100 Feb 25th 1941, 542XXX-545XXX shipment referenced above. I've not seen the "U" in a circle, on the receiver before. Perhaps you can shed some light on the significance of that marking.

Hope this helps with your research.

Sam


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Sam, thanks for posting these two pistols.

545333. Has that unusual U in a circle mark, I still do not know the meaning of this mark. Has anyone else come across it?

548372 being from a shipment of X100 pistols as is 545333. Both have London commercial proof marks as well as Enfield inspection markings. This is interesting because these two shipments are not listed in the British contracts record ledgers, but obviously were purchased from Churchill. Whereas the X198 pistol shipment is listed in the contract ledger book - albeit with a figure of X200.

A pistol from this shipment showed-up on Gun Broker in 2016: 541994, with a Colt letter. Again this has commercial London proof marks but just a simple broad arrow on the rear of the frame near the rampant horse. No Enfield inspection marks.

Another pistol sold in the UK in 2017: 543084. I know this is from the Sept 7th 1940 shipment but I am trying to get more detailed information on markings. Will post about this when found.

So the question now is there any E J Churchill shipped pistols that do NOT have British (London) commercial proof marks?

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543084 does have commercial proof marks but the archived photo on Holts site is to low resolution to determine the ordnance markings, but a note I have says there are no military markings., 541994.
So further to my post above it looks like we have one E J Churchill pistol with no military markings.

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AlanD
 
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