And therein lies a tale . In the very early 1900s, the Texas Rangers were under pressure to cease appearing in towns and cities whilst bristling with hardware. So Capt. J.R. Hughes, assigned by 1907 to Austin and his men having been officially 'dismounted' accordingly, either was tasked with or took it upon himself to, come up with a solution: conceal the Colt and its belt. The rest is history: he attended the prominent saddlery of W.T. Wroe in Austin, who would in just a year marry the widow of famed Capt. L.H. McNelly. The result was the Brill; August Brill was a clerk and one of his saddler, N.J. Rabensburg, is credited with the holster's design.Ya, I don't get the dbl belt thing when one will do.
I know the Texas tradition just haven't yet adopted it (40 years on)
I do like his leather however..
One thing I would take exception to in your comments. The 1911 was adopted in Texas (and else where) just as fast as the originals could be stolen from the Army.. and Pershing's Corp. By the time the 38 Super came along the 1911 was well entrenched with the Texas Rangers and Southern Lawmen. The 4 3/4" SAA guns were as well. The shorter guns were adopted by good and bad men as quickly as folks moved to town and got off the horse as the everyday means of travel. First it was the rail road then it was the automobile. Either way the shorter guns were out selling the long guns by the late 1880s.Part of the solution appears to have been the shift from the 7-1/2" Colts that we see often in late 19th century photos of Rangers, to the 4-3/4" barrel that we see in early 20th century pics. The Colt Super Auto appeared much later (circa 1930?) and favoured by Rangers for penetrating car bodies.
Thanks for that information . Bear in mind though, from a reference I have the Rangers supplied (though not their guns) unlimited 'free' ammunition to their men, for practice etc. I expect the calibers they were willing to supply under this programme, likely dictated the guns used during that period. And there weren't really very many Rangers then, either. If interested I will suss that out for the forum. Indeed the 'go-to' holster of the era was the Brill, made for the 1911 and SAA very early; later the DA revolvers. I personally don't know of a way to determine how many carried the 1911 -- ever. But pics of them with the Colt SAA abound .Great story Red, thanks for sharing. Makes perfect sense. We use to get chit for showing up in the office all heeled and ready to go to war. Made the office folk nervous some. Likely the reason paddle holsters became so popular at a later date.
Funny how some things never change. But sure do see how and why they did what they did to come up with a two belt rig after your explanation. Thank you. Care to share photo of an original "Threeperson"?
One thing I would take exception to in your comments. The 1911 was adopted in Texas (and else where) just as fast as the originals could be stolen from the Army.. and Pershing's Corp. By the time the 38 Super came along the 1911 was well entrenched with the Texas Rangers and Southern Lawmen. The 4 3/4" SAA guns were as well. The shorter guns were adopted by good and bad men as quickly as folks moved to town and got off the horse as the everyday means of travel. First it was the rail road then it was the automobile. Either way the shorter guns were out selling the long guns by the late 1880s.
And therein lies another curious tale. That holster is indeed a Myres, and a Threepersons Style Holster. And I do expect that Tom owned it. Bob McNellis, who founded today's El Paso Saddlery, had a father who owned a camera and gun shop in El Paso where Tom was a frequent visitor even in Bob's time, and Sr. once owned some of Tom's guns. It is documented that they were inherited by Bob and John Bianchi and he were good mates and that's likely how John came by the gun, the holster, and a replica Treasury badge with Tom's name on it (it is not his Treasury badge; its return to Treasury is documented). The rest of Tom's guns likely were sold immediately after the probate of Tom Powers' estate in 1974 (though he died in '32!). ALL of Tom's guns were in private hands, reappeared late last year, and are now in different private collections (but known to me this time).The holster from Wilson's book below..
In your opinion is this an actual Threeperson's design? And is it one of T. Threeperson's original holsters?
I ask because as a design it is "nothing" like what your are showing.
Suspect the whole story of the two "three persons" needs to sorted out first though.
No one. El Paso Saddlery claims to but have used the cuff incorrectly, to that it doesn't form a customised tunnel to an exact belt width front and back.Anyone doing a faithful reproduction of this holster?
I'm wondering about the Speed Scabbard from Thad Rybka?Done right, with a proper belt loop and seam welt, I'd consider the Myres 614 as "right" for a SAA. I know El Paso versions are sorely lacking for my own use. Anyone know who does make a proper version with the sewn in welts Red has mentioned?