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I have been so fortunate as to have benevolent supervisors who have allowed me to retain my Colt .38 Service Revolvers for continued duty use. My primary sidearm is the Official Police and my secondary is the Metropolitan MK III, a sixgun I purchased in 1990. I elected to stay with my revolvers back in 1992 when the changover to pistol from revolver started happening here in Columbus. The differences between the two are pronounced, as most of the fine people here are aware. My OP is a straight thorough-bred, with much precise, coordinated, engineering going into it's construction. A trigger-action, hand-honed and hand-fitted by the "best" artesians of gun craftsmanship! No other heavy duty fixed sight .38 Cop Service Revolver was this refined. It was the best of the best, hands down! My four-inch Heavy Barrel Metropolitan was another story in sixgun engineering. The story of the Mark 3 line has been widely circulated on this forum by very respected and learned members of this forum and I won't enter into that arena for fear of repetition-aggravation. But, in short, the difference in manufacture-approach was pronounced. My Metropolitan required none of the precise hand-honing/fitting attention that was demanded of the OP design. It was a parts-in-the-bin-put-together sixgun that turned out to be one of the strongest and sturdiest .38 Special double-action revolvers ever designed that came out (1969) when the .357 was gaining traction in law enforcement sales across the country. From research, I was to learn of the short production time period for the Metropolitan, a roughly 3-year period running from 69-72. The NYPD was a big customer of the Metropolitan, but even that large PD couldn't keep the Metropolitan alive at Colt with the declining interest in the .38 Special in the early 70's.

As the years past, no, flew by, I was to utilize my Metro as a backup to my OP for duty use. Now the Metro had the same barrel twist (1:14") as my OP and, being a very stout revolver, it could take the hottest of .38 rounds that ammunition companies made. I never like that hot-hot stuff because, after much shooting, I was to find out that my rugged Colt preferred the old .38 Police Load. You know, the one so many experts repeat, ad-nauseum, is 'not' effective and launch into a long diatribe about its weakness and why the super-duper +P++ is the 'only' effective' .38 round. I load that old .38 Police Load of the 158-grain lead round nose with the standard factory loading that generates about 200-foot pounds of energy at muzzle distance while traveling at 755 feet per second at that same distance. That is "THE" round for my Metro and it groups this round the best of all the other .38's known to man! Yes sir, the old .38 Police Load, poo-pooed by so many, is my duty load as well as qualification load as well as my competition load. My Colt, both of them, group the closest with this round. For all my Metro's given strength and reliability, its ability to withstand any and every .38 Round, I retain the old .38 Police Load because of the given reasons. The Mark 3 Metropolitan was the strongest, most trouble-free of fixed sight service revolvers ever. The previously mentioned barrel twist helps my stout friend to be a very accurate shooting sixgun! With precise bullet placement on the target, the 'only' factor a cop should consider in defending himself or others from deadly attack, the Metropolitan can still "SERVE AND PROTECT", like mine does for me! Thank you my friends and sorry for the length.
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Glad to hear that. I bought a Colt Metropolitan Mk III [1970 date] from a friend recently and am very pleased to hear that I can expect it to be durable. I've only had it to the range once but will surely take it more times in the future.
 

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They are great revolvers. My LGS called me last week to see if I wanted one they had just taken intrade for $360.00 out the door. I couldn't get there fast enough. After cleaning it up the next day I went to the range and ran a box of 158gr. through it and man it's very accurate. I had great groupings. A great 38.
 

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David/Dabney, how about some photos of both guns? Like you, I have a soft spot in my soul for the .38 Special revolver. With 37 years in law enforcement, I carried a few on/off duty, plus used them in Police Combat (PPC) competition. I'd probably pack one today, but the Federal outfit I work for hasn't allowed use of privately owned handguns for many years, so my duty holster is filled with "Tactical Tupperware." I won't debate the .38 Special standard 158 gr. LRN load with you...my last .38 Special duty carry load was the 158 gr. SWC-HP +P and I'd still be happy with it today. Hang in there and stay safe.
 

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I like the Metro too...a very strong .38. Probably not a good idea to dry-fire though; a broken firing pin means a trip back to the factory. This one is an NYPD retread that was factory refinished. Came out rather nice.
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Mr. LaVistaBill;
Thank you for your interest Bill in an old lawmans Colt Sixgun and "gulp" his image. I was formerly under the monniker of "officialpolice" at an earlier time on the forum here. Mr. Guy Sajer was kind enough to post a few pictures on this forum for me. Wise and kind man, Guy Sajer is, was astute enough to realize this old cop may be a "tad" challenged in posting pictures and posted for me. If you will go to the date of 8-18-2009 (Guy Sajer) in revolver section you will see 4-images of both duty Colts (OP, Metro) as well as myself in uniform. Thanks again for your interest.
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eThis was a good idea poorly marketed. the name Metropolitan did not help IMHO. I would have used Official Police HB , for heavy barrel. or Colt New Police Mark 3 ,and would have offered a stainless version as well, although at the time NYPD was a blue gun only department. This revolver like the Official Police Mark 3 was vastly under appreciated, and until recently , undervalued. If you have one you have a reliable , dependable friend for life, and if you see a hearse with a roof rack ,maybe more . if you load this bull strong revolver with my favorite load of Buffalo Bore plus p 158 lhp, you have a 357 quality load, without the blast and flash. Fast followup shots ,and a heavy slug going out of that 4 inch muffler sized pipe at over 1150 fps. a peace officer's dream. Enjoy your revolver , you can cover my six with that wheelgun anytime.
 

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I recently saw a post [somewhere] about using home-made snap caps. Knock out the primer cup with a punch and fill the cavity with silicone. Will this work in the Colts?
 

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Doug.38PR;
I switched over from my once "only" duty load of (NYPD 158gr.+P SWCHP) about two years ago to the old standard .38 Police Load. That was done because of this; the .38 Special 158-gr. LRN, under the standard loading, is a slow mover. My former duty load is traveling much faster and if I was back out on the street again I would shift back to it. I'm deployed inside a 5-story public building, nicknamed Fort Apache, that is packed-to-the-max every day with people seeking social services (welfare, 5-mental health clinics, Health Dept.) and it is a 3-ring circus from get-to-go. Heck fire, I'd be safer back out in the streets than in this insane asylum. My OP and Metro will cloverleaf the old .38 Police Load and inside the confines of Ft. Apache that load is the special one for this special place! I can control it better than the hotter load I formerly packed, and inside this packed house, "that" is an extremely important point! I received the blessings from the High Command, after my diatribe, on "why" the old Police Load, for this scenario is a better pick for me! Sometimes an old man can persuade, with the right approach. In short Doug, I have enough confidence in the older, inside here, to do the job of protecting others and myself. I would not take it to the streets as a beat cop sir. Thanks so much for your interest kind sir.
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Mr. LaVistaBill;
Thank you for your interest Bill in an old lawmans Colt Sixgun and "gulp" his image. I was formerly under the monniker of "officialpolice" at an earlier time on the forum here. Mr. Guy Sajer was kind enough to post a few pictures on this forum for me. Wise and kind man, Guy Sajer is, was astute enough to realize this old cop may be a "tad" challenged in posting pictures and posted for me. If you will go to the date of 8-18-2009 (Guy Sajer) in revolver section you will see 4-images of both duty Colts (OP, Metro) as well as myself in uniform. Thanks again for your interest.
David
David,

I found the post and pix you were talking about. Are you still using that old NYPD "Suicide" holster for your OP? I have one of those old Jay-Pee holsters for a S&W Model 10; a friend who was retired NYPD blessed me with a holster, belt and cartridge slide he used on the NYPD, it has been in a couple of my articles in years past.


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during the hollowpoint phobia craze ,NYPD issued 158 swc lead plus. This proved to be a good fight stopper, the 158 nonplus p is almost as good ,with less overpenetration than the rnl,best compromise would be Buffalo Bore 158 lhp ,standard pressure round
 

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As a bit of trivia,when NYPD wanted to develope a round that had the same velocity comming out of a 2 inch snubbie as a 4 inch barrel they called on Speer and the 38 special Gold Dot round was developed.
 
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