[Oyeboten]

Revolvers do seem here to stay.

It would sure be interesting ( although a little risky, since it might be depressing, too ) to see where the Revolver is at in 2113 say, a Century from now.

Or in 3013, a Thousand years from now.

The true pinnacle of 'DA' Revolver design and Lockwork did seem to be reached in the closing decade of the 19th Century or maybe in the first few years of the 20th, for a few minor improvements to the designs, with only some very small ( and mostly cosmetic ) changes there-after, at least as far as Colt and S & W anyway.

'SAVAGE' had the 'Double Stack' Magazine for their Pistols, 30 years before the Browning High Power, for that matter...Automatic wise.

They say "You can't stop progress!", but they really should have also said "You can't stop how for so many things, the real Zenith or Peak or Crest, just keeps getting longer and longer ago..."


Some days I am tempted to bury a few of my favorite Revolvers, and early Colt Automatics, and, a few boxes of Ammunition for them, in the hopes that if I reincarnate a few centuries from now, I might remember that, and where, I had buried them. Since by then, the Colt New Service and early Detective Special or an early Government Model and so on are going to very likely be tough to find, or be one giant bite in the ass on whatever the successor is by then, to Gunbroker.

 

[Oyeboten]

If I were Uniformed LEO of some sort, I would prefer to carry a Colt Government Model in .45 ACP.

I would also carry two, or maybe three additional charged Magazines.

If really expecting a choppy situation, ( and or to be kept in my Car always, anyway ) I would bring a few more extra, charged Magazines.

I would also carry a Colt 'Detective Special' or an S & W 'M&P' Snubby, as 'back up'...with a couple charged Speed Loaders.

Urban CCW and being slender and in a Hot Clime, the .45 Colt Automatic is a little too large to CCW with, when wearing T-Shirt and Levi 501s. In a cooler clime, with bulkier clothes, it would be my first choice.

So, a smaller Revolver or smaller Automatic, is 'perfect'...for the conditions I am in typically...as a non LEO, non open Carry fellow.

I am very fond of old Revolvers, of course.

But, if "If I could only have one Gun", and I had to rely on it for all situations, and live with it indefinitely rain and shine, Mountains and Desert and Plaines and Valleys and City and Suburb and for better or worse, and so on, it'd be a Colt Government Model, or m1911, and, an old one, too.

 

[Oyeboten]

That is just awesome. So you have Officer Joe with a .357, Officer Jane with a .44 Special and Officer Biden with a good ole Double Barrel Coach Gun. I hope they all are hauling around a lot of extra ammo with them on their person. Seriously though, it just makes sense all the way around for a dept to be uniformly armed.

How much 'extra ammo' would one reasonably need? If one is Plain clothes or Uniformed LEO?

I see no issue there with Officers carrying their own Arm(s), ones they prefer, one's they bought and paid for and qualify with and so on..

If it was me, I would carry two or three re-Loads worth...maybe four...depending on the Arm.

Hardly difficult to do.

If in a protracted Shoot Out, it is not as if Officers are going to be saying "Hey, toss me some more Ammo!" merely because they all happen to have the same Gun...most probably do NOT carry enough for the rare exigency anyway, so it would not matter then, if they all used the same Cartridge...they will all be "out" fairly quickly, with no one to borrow any more from anyway.

 

[Oyeboten]

I am sure that if Hollywood and TV were to have Action or Crime Dramas where Revolvers are used more often, and or used by the principle or heroic characters...and used to triumph over those using Automatics, it would encourage the Public ( or segments of it anyway ) to decide they would now rather have a Revolver than an Automatic.

 

[Oyeboten]

The Revolver is of course entirely viable and always will be.

When in the right Hands, even more so!


We should bear in mind, the vast Majority of LEO of all sorts, are not 'Gun People' and they are not familiar or experienced with Firearms, other than what they are issued and often, too often, even then, they are not near well enough familiar or competent with even that one Gun.


They have nothing to go on...other than, they get issued, what they get issued.


Very very few Gun related altercations involve ( or ought to involve ) or require even five Shots, let alone the Six, which a medium frame Revolver offers...let alone, more than that, as most Automatics offer.

Most LEO never fire a shot in exigency in their whole Career, and many of course, do not remain long enough for it to be a Career.


The usual Six Shot Revolver, if with good Training and practice, would serve just fine...if not better than that.

But, naïve mystique, or 'image' and posture and 'presentation', or 'Fashion' ( regardless of justification ) and so on are major elements in the whole matter, which now, wishes to flatter itself according to it's Lights, with the cliché de-jur, rather than with modesty, higher qualities of Reason, clarity of Purpose and true Ability.

 

[Oyeboten]

A good quality to begin with Revolver or Automatic...I am sure, if lubed well, and put away in a safe manner...would still function fine a hundred years from now, or two hundred. Maybe even three or four or five hundred.

About all which might go south, would be if a tensioned Spring got 'tired', and, a well made Spring, can resist fatigue a long long time.

So, leaving un-Cocked, and leaving Magazines empty...probably, five hundred years even, either would function just fine if stored well.

 

[Oyeboten]

Oyeboten, I don't deny your knowledge of the topic, but I had brand name magazines for a semi-auto (Browning, to be specific) that failed to function reliably if stored loaded for a few months. The same magazines worked correctly when new.

None of these Companys ( or their Metallurgists, nor their decision-makers, or quality control, or quality of outsourced parts ) are what they used to be.



Properly made Magazine Spring would/should remain viable a long time, even under compression...a 'Charged Magazine' in other words, if having a properly made Spring, should remain viable in compression, for I am sure, a very long time indeed.

I would not expect a Magazine with properly made Springs to fail to feed perfectly after say, sitting charged for fifty years anyway...and I would not be surprised if some would function and feed perfectly after sitting fully charged for seventy five or a hundred years.

Sitting uncompressed, un-Charged, I would expect a well made Magazine ( or the Automatic itself ) to still function fine pretty much indefinitely.

But at some point, things would start to get 'iffy', I am sure, Spring Wise...or some would fail from breakage, others from being 'tired', and others would stay alright. I just have no idea how long a time it would be, for that to eventuate meaningfully.

 

[Oyeboten]

I received my "black widow" Luger from a vet still loaded with ww2 ammo. That magazine still runs like a champ.

Good mention!


I was just musing on this myself -

I have come across several stories of WWII 'Bring Backs', and or issue Pistols, which were put away in 1945 or something, with a Charged Magazine in the Pistol, and, 1990 something or 2000-n-something, it falls to others who then give away or sell the Pistol, and, long story short, Magazine would still feed just fine, were one to have asked it to.

 

[Oyeboten]

Revolver wise, various of us here have Revolvers which are over a Hundred Years old, and, which have had a good deal of use ( and or abuse ) prior to our acquiring them, and, these Revolvers generally do not require new Springs.

An early 1900s Colt Revolver put in storage, left un-Cocked of course, could very well function and fire perfectly after sitting five hundred years or more...even if likely being in need of some cleaning and some good fresh Lube first ( but collectors by then would get mad if one went and did a 'Range Report' with it, no doubt! - I can see it now "Should I shoot it? Or let it be a Safe Queen???" Lol...)

 

[Oyeboten]

Think revolvers are "outdated" and gone for good? Or will they make a big comeback?

In my opinion - Revolvers are outdated only as far as the apperception of the primary or dominant buying demographics, but, this because of the dominant buying demographics having been led or coerced or induced into that apparent or naïve prejudice, by confluent Marketing strategies of both LEO and of Gun Manufacturers responding to perceived 'preferences' and lower production costs or both, and this with emphasis or glorification going to Automatics, in Media/Hollywood/TV presentations.

Not gone for good. Not gone at all...

Will not ever make a big comeback.

 

[Oyeboten]

A 'polymer' 3rd Dragoon would be interesting...( not saying I would want, one, but, jus' sayin', it'd be interesting anyway ).

 

[Oyeboten]

A DA Revolver is easier for most people to understand, and, to use well-enough, and to load and unload and so on, on short notice or without much habit or discipline/training.


Automatics tend to be more confusing at first, and or to require intentional operations of Safeties or Releases or general operation know-how, which can be intimidating to those unfamiliar, or to those who are new to Hand Guns.

 

[Oyeboten]

Of course, for anyone who carries a Revolver, it is so easy to also carry one or more charged 'Speed Loaders' ( just in case some 'just-in-case' event were to require more than 'six' ).