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Think revolvers are "outdated" and gone for good? Or will they make a big comeback

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Think revolvers are "outdated" and gone for good? Or will they make a big comeback

It's often said by most people, cop and civilian alike, that revolvers are "outdated" and are "a thing of the past" Most of these people don't realize that the Double Action Revolver Pistol and the Semi Automatic Pistol are not too far apart in terms of age. Furthermore, many of these same people will respond by saying "well we have high capacity guns now" not realizing also that high capacity guns have been around since 1935 with the Browning Hi Power (and it didn't even have any kind of market in the US until the 1950s and didn't gain any kind of real following until the 1980s). They'll then say "well criminals are better armed now" forgetting that criminals have been armed to the teeth in the past with gangsters like John Dillinger, Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow and mobsters with Al Capone and other mafia thugs armed with BARs, Tommy Guns and 1911 pistols. Much more than I can say for the average crackhead of today.

All things considered, nothing has REALLY changed in terms of weapons technological effectiveness (although bullet designs have in some ways improved....but then the "old school" FBI Load in .38 Special still reigns king compared to "modern" .38 hollowpoint bullets). The only thing, as I see it, that has really changed is the culture. This mindset of "more means better" and that the style needs to look "new" and we take our model off of what we see and experience in movies and television. If an idea is over 20 years old, it's "outdated". Doesn't matter if it's right, just that it's "old".

Well, one day the world I think will swing back the other way and realize that speed kills, old people are wiser, history has more to teach than we think and revolvers means Six for Sure and the polymer semi-automatic fad will die out or at least retract into moderation.
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That is just awesome. So you have Officer Joe with a .357, Officer Jane with a .44 Special and Officer Biden with a good ole Double Barrel Coach Gun. I hope they all are hauling around a lot of extra ammo with them on their person. Seriously though, it just makes sense all the way around for a dept to be uniformly armed.
On paper maybe so. But, it seems to have worked down here for decades for police to choose what they want and carry and what they are comfortable with. But funny you should bring that up. I was talking to a former deputy sheriff from Texas just the other day who is managing an area of our landcrew. Like myself he prefers revolvers. He carried a Ruger Service Six .357 Magnum. One of his partners carried a .44 Magnum M-29. He attended some kind of meeting in Dallas where some "expert" was telling all these agencies that semi-autos are better and/or everybody should be armed with the same kind of weapon. Whereas he inquired "why?" The "expert" explained "suppose you've got a .357 and your partner has a .44. Y'all are in a shootout, he runs out of ammo. You can't give him any of your ammo because you have two different guns."
The deputy replied: "He's got 6 rounds in his gun, 12 on his belt in speedloaders. If he can't take care of business in 18 rounds....he's not getting any of mine."
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That is just awesome. So you have Officer Joe with a .357, Officer Jane with a .44 Special and Officer Biden with a good ole Double Barrel Coach Gun. I hope they all are hauling around a lot of extra ammo with them on their person. Seriously though, it just makes sense all the way around for a dept to be uniformly armed.

Most departments have a choice that is narrowed down as to caliber, and the selection is not too great. There is a list of approved arms.

Bob Wright
On paper maybe so. But, it seems to have worked down here for decades for police to choose what they want and carry and what they are comfortable with. But funny you should bring that up. I was talking to a former deputy sheriff from Texas just the other day who is managing an area of our landcrew. Like myself he prefers revolvers. He carried a Ruger Service Six .357 Magnum. One of his partners carried a .44 Magnum M-29. He attended some kind of meeting in Dallas where some "expert" was telling all these agencies that semi-autos are better and/or everybody should be armed with the same kind of weapon. Whereas he inquired "why?" The "expert" explained "suppose you've got a .357 and your partner has a .44. Y'all are in a shootout, he runs out of ammo. You can't give him any of your ammo because you have two different guns."
The deputy replied: "He's got 6 rounds in his gun, 12 on his belt in speedloaders. If he can't take care of business in 18 rounds....he's not getting any of mine."
That's very nice nostalgia, but it proves, what? Nothing.
Yeah, there is not a lot of 9mm or 40 revolvers out there. I am not bashing a revolver, I carry one often, I just do not think there is anyway you will see them return to police or military service anytime soon. Major melt down and resupply effort needed and you will see them reappear, but not as normal every day carry. I would not feel under armed with any of my center fire S&W or Colt Revolvers but like most of you guys/gals I do not need 17 rounds to put 6 center mass.

Most departments have a choice that is narrowed down as to caliber, and the selection is not too great. There is a list of approved arms.

Bob Wright
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However, it's hard to argue with semi autos when it's widely accepted that most people shoot better with a DA semi auto than they do with a DA revolver.
Well, in my experience, those "most people" group you refer to when I have occasion to chat with them about getting a gun or owning a gun their first instinct (knowing nothing about guns really) is to get an automatic. They have to have an automatic. "I was thinking about getting a glock because my friend old me that's what all the police carry." or "I was talking to a cop who's a friend of my brother who said Glock is the way to go" or "I was thinking some kind of 9mm because that doesn't have as much recoil as the .40 that 'all the cops' carry" and when you simply ask "what about a revolver?" They look at you like you just said something in Chinese. Because semi-automatics are all they are exposed to in our culture.

My fiance had never fired a gun except for her father's deer rifle at age 5 (after which, for some reason, she wasn't too eager to do it again). I introduced her to the Colt Official Police and Colt Detective Special. She likes them. I introduced her to the S&W Model 15. She likes it. I introduced her to Single Action revolvers (she likes them....except the Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk .44 magnum because the barrel almost bumped her in the forehead). I introduced her to the Colt Python. She liked it (when loaded with non magnum loads) I introduced her to the 1911 .45 ACP....she didn't care for it. I introduced her to the Beretta M9 9mm. She didn't care for it. I showed her my friend's Glock 9mm. "that's ugly!" she says. Semi Automatics she doesn't care for. She loves the Detective Special and wants one of her own one day. (and I plan on getting her one in.....naaa she might see this post, I want to surprise her;))


EDIT: Another side note on this that I've noticed is that currently made revolvers really DO have horrible DA design. WAY too tight, WAY too clunky compared to the guns I'm used to collecting and handling. Friend of mine brought over a S&W governor and neither me nor my fiance liked the DA trigger pull. Gun companies need to really rethink this manufacturing defect.
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That's very nice nostalgia, but it proves, what? Nothing.
Proves that it doesn't necessarily make sense for everybody to use the same thing and scenarios don't necessarily reflect real life
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That's an opinion of one old time cop, hardly enough data to characterize as proof
Proves that it doesn't necessarily make sense for everybody to use the same thing and scenarios don't necessarily reflect real life
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Doug, most of us here are experienced pistoleros (that doesnt mean world class, it means what it describes. experienced).

If we are going to discuss the merits of revolvers over semi autos here we might as well discard what beginners think about revolvers and semi autos - and "movie guns". It doesn't logically relate to the majority of forum members or our levels of experience. It has very little bearing to your initial theory, at least here on this forum and in this thread, even if you did start it.

I agree that some people choose guns because they are blinded by dumb movies. They buy breeds of dogs based on dumb movies, too. It can't be denied, but I also think most people who stick with guns over a longer period of time outgrow the infatuation with a movie gun, and will eventually wind up with a gun that is practical for them (as you touched on) unless the movie gun is right for them and they are proficient with it. We cannot assume they will always stick with the gun because "James Bond" carried one, or some such fictional hogwash. How do we know that you aren't more favorable towards revolvers because of older movie influences that stoked your imagination, just by example?

The anecdote about the local cops with the revolvers really doesn't prove anything, despite your displeasure with my remark. We're talking design, tactics, ease of maintenance, durability, & consumer cost, not about romanticism, nostalgia, and emotion or a few cops personal choices. The only relevant points about revolvers trumping the many features of modern semi auto pistols, is ease of usage. That one is notable but again, more important for the novice than to most experienced shooters. Yeah, you can always see that the revolver is loaded. That's great, but careful gun handling trumps that one. too.

As far as introducing novice shooters to handgunning with a revolver, this has been dogma for at least 60 years and I think it's safe to say that most of us agree with this for the obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean one has to stick with revolvers - unless they want to. That's fine, but not when we are discussing the fine points of design, ergonomics, practicality and low maintence. The best reason for introducing a novice to handgun shooting with a revolver is the revolver's relative simplicity in handling and safety aspects, and to get the novice comfortable with noise, recoil, and muzzle flash associated with controlled explosions. Semi autos have various design systems and reinforcing safe handling becomes more complex with a semi autoi. That's about it. Citing the novice falls short in logic. Next you'll be saying we have novice members. True, but not nearly the majority of members.

Here's an example of experience choosing a semi auto, even thought it's not a top shelf one. Our esteemed Judge Colt daily carries a plastic pistol, the KelTec P-11. Check some of his posts. He's a realist as well as a nostalgic collector, as am I. I also have a KelTec P-11 but it's not a favorite of mine and I don't have to wear a suit all day and carry a document case on top of it.

Do you really think short of a legal ban of semi autos that the masses will return to the revolver in any great numbers? I cannot believe you do so, despite your opening remark, and I quote

" one day the world I think will swing back the other way and realize that speed kills, old people are wiser, history has more to teach than we think and revolvers means Six for Sure and the polymer semi-automatic fad will die out or at least retract into moderation."

Do you honestly believe this? As another member said to you, "sir, I think you are dreaming." You've got to be kidding us.

We might as well go back to flintlock pistols and revolvers because we like them, certainly not because of self defense issues. Let any individual shoot and carry any type of gun he chooses and feels most proficient with, but please don't start a thread saying semi autos will fade and revolvers will be back, unless you anticipate the govt. banning semi autos.

Lets re equip our military and police with old time firearms! Then we can watch our enemies and local criminals laugh their heads off while they mow most of us down.
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If I were Uniformed LEO of some sort, I would prefer to carry a Colt Government Model in .45 ACP.

I would also carry two, or maybe three additional charged Magazines.

If really expecting a choppy situation, ( and or to be kept in my Car always, anyway ) I would bring a few more extra, charged Magazines.

I would also carry a Colt 'Detective Special' or an S & W 'M&P' Snubby, as 'back up'...with a couple charged Speed Loaders.

Urban CCW and being slender and in a Hot Clime, the .45 Colt Automatic is a little too large to CCW with, when wearing T-Shirt and Levi 501s. In a cooler clime, with bulkier clothes, it would be my first choice.

So, a smaller Revolver or smaller Automatic, is 'perfect'...for the conditions I am in typically...as a non LEO, non open Carry fellow.

I am very fond of old Revolvers, of course.

But, if "If I could only have one Gun", and I had to rely on it for all situations, and live with it indefinitely rain and shine, Mountains and Desert and Plaines and Valleys and City and Suburb and for better or worse, and so on, it'd be a Colt Government Model, or m1911, and, an old one, too.
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I am the Instructor at our range known as "The Dinosaur".In the whole Revolver -VS- Semi Auto debate I am up front in saying when I carry 95% of the time is my Detective Special or Cobra riding with me. I will say with the exception of Security and Law Enforcement you need not worry about having 17 and 1 in the pipe.If you can't handle a defensive situation in 5 or 6 rounds and one tactical reload you need a SWAT team. Another point my instructor made that I found to be true is if you can shoot a DA Revolver well you can pick up any Semi Auto and shoot it well. Police may never go back to the sixgun but I am observing that a large percentage of new shooters are gravitating to the revolver. For the students who ask me about buying a decent revolver I tell them to get a older Model 10 or D.S. and stay away from the new ones.My Model 36 was a replacement for Model 640 Barrel launcher #2 and the barrel was twisting to the right.It took 3 trips to S+W before they replaced the defective barrel.the "Classic" Model 36 has a 720 dollar price. A decent D.S. can be had for less and you have the quality.:cool:
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That is just awesome. So you have Officer Joe with a .357, Officer Jane with a .44 Special and Officer Biden with a good ole Double Barrel Coach Gun. I hope they all are hauling around a lot of extra ammo with them on their person. Seriously though, it just makes sense all the way around for a dept to be uniformly armed.
How much 'extra ammo' would one reasonably need? If one is Plain clothes or Uniformed LEO?

I see no issue there with Officers carrying their own Arm(s), ones they prefer, one's they bought and paid for and qualify with and so on..

If it was me, I would carry two or three re-Loads worth...maybe four...depending on the Arm.

Hardly difficult to do.

If in a protracted Shoot Out, it is not as if Officers are going to be saying "Hey, toss me some more Ammo!" merely because they all happen to have the same Gun...most probably do NOT carry enough for the rare exigency anyway, so it would not matter then, if they all used the same Cartridge...they will all be "out" fairly quickly, with no one to borrow any more from anyway.
Doug, most of us here are experienced pistoleros (that doesnt mean world class, it means what it describes. experienced).If we are going to discuss the merits of revolvers over semi autos here we might as well discard what beginners think about revolvers and semi autos - and "movie guns". It doesn't logically relate to the majority of forum members or our levels of experience. It has very little bearing to your initial theory, at least here on this forum and in this thread, even if you did start it. I agree that some people choose guns because they are blinded by dumb movies. They buy breeds of dogs based on dumb movies, too. It can't be denied, but I also think most people who stick with guns over a longer period of time outgrow the infatuation with a movie gun, and will eventually wind up with a gun that is practical for them (as you touched on) unless the movie gun is right for them and they are proficient with it. We cannot assume they will always stick with the gun because "James Bond" carried one, or some such fictional hogwash. How do we know that you aren't more favorable towards revolvers because of older movie influences that stoked your imagination, just by example? The anecdote about the local cops with the revolvers really doesn't prove anything, despite your displeasure with my remark. We're talking design, tactics, ease of maintenance, durability, & consumer cost, not about romanticism, nostalgia, and emotion or a few cops personal choices. The only relevant points about revolvers trumping the many features of modern semi auto pistols, is ease of usage. That one is notable but again, more important for the novice than to most experienced shooters. Yeah, you can always see that the revolver is loaded. That's great, but careful gun handling trumps that one. too. As far as introducing novice shooters to handgunning with a revolver, this has been dogma for at least 60 years and I think it's safe to say that most of us agree with this for the obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean one has to stick with revolvers - unless they want to. That's fine, but not when we are discussing the fine points of design, ergonomics, practicality and low maintence. The best reason for introducing a novice to handgun shooting with a revolver is the revolver's relative simplicity in handling and safety aspects, and to get the novice comfortable with noise, recoil, and muzzle flash associated with controlled explosions. Semi autos have various design systems and reinforcing safe handling becomes more complex with a semi autoi. That's about it. Citing the novice falls short in logic. Next you'll be saying we have novice members. True, but not nearly the majority of members.Here's an example of experience choosing a semi auto, even thought it's not a top shelf one. Our esteemed Judge Colt daily carries a plastic pistol, the KelTec P-11. Check some of his posts. He's a realist as well as a nostalgic collector, as am I. I also have a KelTec P-11 but it's not a favorite of mine and I don't have to wear a suit all day and carry a document case on top of it. Do you really think short of a legal ban of semi autos that the masses will return to the revolver in any great numbers? I cannot believe you do so, despite your opening remark, and I quote" one day the world I think will swing back the other way and realize that speed kills, old people are wiser, history has more to teach than we think and revolvers means Six for Sure and the polymer semi-automatic fad will die out or at least retract into moderation." Do you honestly believe this? As another member said to you, "sir, I think you are dreaming." You've got to be kidding us. We might as well go back to flintlock pistols and revolvers because we like them, certainly not because of self defense issues. Let any individual shoot and carry any type of gun he chooses and feels most proficient with, but please don't start a thread saying semi autos will fade and revolvers will be back, unless you anticipate the govt. banning semi autos. Lets re equip our military and police with old time firearms! Then we can watch our enemies and local criminals laugh their heads off while they mow most of us down.
. See you're illustrating my point. You are arguing from the assumption that revolvers are outdated and no longer a serious weapon compared to semi autos.And I'm not talking about new shooters necessarily being influenced by movies, its just thst , due the mainstream gun culture that they get their interest in guns ftom , they think semi autos are what there is and that is THE category to choose from. Or if they do happen to be exposed to a revolver its some horrible clunky tight DA that Academy sells by Taurus, ruger or rossi
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I am sure that if Hollywood and TV were to have Action or Crime Dramas where Revolvers are used more often, and or used by the principle or heroic characters...and used to triumph over those using Automatics, it would encourage the Public ( or segments of it anyway ) to decide they would now rather have a Revolver than an Automatic.
. See you're illustrating my point. You are arguing from the assumption that revolvers are outdated and no longer a serious weapon compared to semi autos.And I'm not talking about new shooters necessarily being influenced by movies, its just thst , due the mainstream gun culture that they get their interest in guns ftom , they think semi autos are what there is and that is THE category to choose from. Or if they do happen to be exposed to a revolver its some horrible clunky tight DA that Academy sells by Taurus, ruger or rossi
I give up, you win Doug. I did not say revolvers were out dated I said they were lethal and still viable. Please read the label.
I stated logic and you stated emotion. And, you specifically mentioned new shooters, and movie influence, before I did. How you blithely ignore your own previous comments is amusing.
Have it your way, but read what majority of posts say, and - you are outgunned, in more ways than one ;)
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The Revolver is of course entirely viable and always will be.

When in the right Hands, even more so!


We should bear in mind, the vast Majority of LEO of all sorts, are not 'Gun People' and they are not familiar or experienced with Firearms, other than what they are issued and often, too often, even then, they are not near well enough familiar or competent with even that one Gun.


They have nothing to go on...other than, they get issued, what they get issued.


Very very few Gun related altercations involve ( or ought to involve ) or require even five Shots, let alone the Six, which a medium frame Revolver offers...let alone, more than that, as most Automatics offer.

Most LEO never fire a shot in exigency in their whole Career, and many of course, do not remain long enough for it to be a Career.


The usual Six Shot Revolver, if with good Training and practice, would serve just fine...if not better than that.

But, naïve mystique, or 'image' and posture and 'presentation', or 'Fashion' ( regardless of justification ) and so on are major elements in the whole matter, which now, wishes to flatter itself according to it's Lights, with the cliché de-jur, rather than with modesty, higher qualities of Reason, clarity of Purpose and true Ability.
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I give up, you win Doug. I did not say revolvers were out dated I said they were lethal and still viable. Please read the label.
I stated logic and you stated emotion. And, you specifically mentioned new shooters, and movie influence, before I did. How you blithely ignore your own previous comments is amusing.
Have it your way, but read what majority of posts say, and - you are outgunned, in more ways than one ;)
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I'm sorry. Maybe I misunderstood you then. Why did you say this in your last post:
Do you honestly believe this? As another member said to you, "sir, I think you are dreaming." You've got to be kidding us. We might as well go back to flintlock pistols and revolvers because we like them, certainly not because of self defense issues. Let any individual shoot and carry any type of gun he chooses and feels most proficient with, but please don't start a thread saying semi autos will fade and revolvers will be back, unless you anticipate the govt. banning semi autos. Lets re equip our military and police with old time firearms! Then we can watch our enemies and local criminals laugh their heads off while they mow most of us down.
And I'm not ignoring my own comments. Yes movies have had a big influence overall in the semi-auto craze of our day.

But my last post I was talking about people who aren't necessarily action blow-up-the-world movie fans (or they may very well be) but are interested in getting a gun for concealed carry or home defense. Girls or guys that just want "something" to keep in the car or in the drawer. Or maybe get a gun, take the CHL course, and for whatever excuse never send the paperwork in (I can think of only one friend out of everyone I know that has taken the course in the past 8 years that followed through and sent the paperwork in for their CHL)

Anyway, the overall culture around them, movies or tv and the gun culture they see when they enter a range for the first time or walk into Academy for the first time often gears them towards Semi Automatics. The friends they have that are gun people are all into Semi-Autos. Some of them do get cheap 5 shot Charter arms or Rossi or Taurus .38 Spl. (with horrible clunky tight action that might give them a bad taste) if it's under the glass at Academy or they may take the advice of the guy behind the counter and get the Tupperware that he says all the "real shooters" carry (though of course, not entirely). But most of them have never really been exposed to a revolver. Like I said, most of these people hear "revolver" and they think you just said something in Chinese.
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I believe that you and Doug think I am arguing against the revolver, I am not. I am telling you that from a modern litigation happy, bean counting, training, supply simplifying stand point it will never happen. Most departments only provide adequate training to protect themselves in a legal challenge. Most of the time when I carry a revolver I do not take more than one reload with me, I get it. If I need more than that I probably put myself in a bad situation I should have been smart enough to avoid. Again, I do not think that the revolver is outdated to use in almost any survival type role, but I do not think you are going to get any major dept, or the public at large to go, as most would consider it, "backwards".
How much 'extra ammo' would one reasonably need? If one is Plain clothes or Uniformed LEO?

I see no issue there with Officers carrying their own Arm(s), ones they prefer, one's they bought and paid for and qualify with and so on..

If it was me, I would carry two or three re-Loads worth...maybe four...depending on the Arm.

Hardly difficult to do.

If in a protracted Shoot Out, it is not as if Officers are going to be saying "Hey, toss me some more Ammo!" merely because they all happen to have the same Gun...most probably do NOT carry enough for the rare exigency anyway, so it would not matter then, if they all used the same Cartridge...they will all be "out" fairly quickly, with no one to borrow any more from anyway.
I carried revolvers on my security guard job 35 years. I was qualifing every six months. I am used to revolvers. I suppose they went to autos by now on my old job but dont know for sure. If I went back to work I would of course carry what they dictate, but I still carry with my concealed permit a revolver. I do own a highly worked over old remington rand. I just cant conceive getting in a situation that wouldnt be resolved with my six shots. A lot of people still hunt with bows and arrows, dont they? I suppose autos will be about a 100% used by LEO and military with many using snubs for backup and maybe quite a few private security companys will allow their guys revolvers. Also I belive many private citizens will still use revolvers for many years to come. However I belive numbers wise autos will outnumber revolvers from now on. I belive fast reloading is the only edge a auto has. I also belive the fast reloading feature is really needed next to never. I wish someone would do a accurate survey on just how many gunfights were won soley with the fast reloading aspect and that number balanced against how many were lost due to jams! I bet there wouldnt be a signifcant differance either way!
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I believe that you and Doug think I am arguing against the revolver, I am not. I am telling you that from a modern litigation happy, bean counting, training, supply simplifying stand point it will never happen. Most departments only provide adequate training to protect themselves in a legal challenge. Most of the time when I carry a revolver I do not take more than one reload with me, I get it. If I need more than that I probably put myself in a bad situation I should have been smart enough to avoid. Again, I do not think that the revolver is outdated to use in almost any survival type role, but I do not think you are going to get any major dept, or the public at large to go, as most would consider it, "backwards".
I hear what you're saying. I'm just saying that considering it "backwards" may fade away with time, as impossible as that may seem to us now. I understand about the costs and what a lot of departments consider as being frugal. At the same time there are a lot of departments, at least down here in the South, that have each man buy his own weapon and supplies. Now, it's true, now most young guys that have their pick don't carry revolvers but they still have the option if they ever desire. And in time, the culture as a whole may rethink a few things.

Just think: 40 years ago most police didn't allow Hollow Point bullets. It was deemed a "murderer's bullet" at worst or something to get sued over at best. With time this has reversed. Now it's considered not only ideal but safer to use (less chance of overpenetration) than LRN or ball ammo
Burning issue!

The subject matter of a couple of posts contain issues that I have faced every since 1992 when our local agencies went to the semi-auto pistol away from the revolver. I remember, only too well, a lot of well-meaning people (wrongfully) advancing the idea that replacing the antequated, their words NOT mine, revolver was a time past coming! More firepower needed was the watchwords spoken ad-nauseun by those in and out of law enforcement. At the time all of this caterwauling was taking place our agencies here was packing the S&W Model 66 (4"bbl.) using .38+P 125gr.JHP ammunition as the duty load. For myself I still retained, still do, my Colt Official Police and it stayed in my duty holster then, loaded with the same ammo. That was the state of affairs here in the south as far as duty sidearms. Those of us in 1992 ,who shot regularly and competed, were already well versed in the semi-auto pistol. The pros and cons of the pistol had already been experienced by most of the regular competitive shooters. Not all pistols, just the ones being advanced as the soon-to-be-new duty weapon for our officers. In 92 the Glock people came here on a mission to prove their product worthwhile. Heck, we had one of them fellas (Glock) drop one of those Glocks out of a hovering helicopter and the thing bounced all round on the asphalt before being picked up and shot. This kind of stuff was going on all over the country then as this was very "BIG" money for the firearm companies making and selling those new "wondernines" them pistols were referred to. A few of us, not taken in by the sales pitch of these people, the few who actually well-schooled in revolver shooting, the few, who studied and test-fired different handguns knew from the get go that a pistol was no advantage over a revolver, the two shooters being of the same skill level. Nope, not even! Matter of fact our entire pistol team, to a man today, shoots the revolver in competition. This being what it is, listed below here are some undisputable facts concerning police officer shootings. This is from the FBI national stats, taken every year by this agency on cop shootings:

1-MOST POLICE FIREFIGHTS (95+%) ARE UNDER 10-FEET.
2-MOST POLICE FIREFIGHTS ARE UNDER 4-SHOTS.
3-NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER HAS THERE BEEN A DOCUMENTED CASE WHERE COPS HAD TO INTERCHANGE AMMO WHILE ENGAGED IN A FIREFIGHT. SO MUCH FOR THE CLAIM "EVERYBODY" HAD TO PACK THE SAME WEAPON AND CALIBER TO INTERCHANGE AMMO IN THIS SORT OF COMBAT. SAVE THAT FOR THE BATTLEFIELD OUR GREAT MILITARY FIGHTS IN. THEY HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN, BUT NOT ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA YET!

All of the above is documented and can be easily verified by nay-sayers who continue to preach the one size fits all, for expense, for safety, for ease of maintenance, and anything else used for leverage. Both of our local agencies, who still have officers old enough who experienced the revolver on duty, these same officers, will tell you how user-friendly the wheelgun was compared to the Glock and S&W M&P .45 now in use. They all say, on the range, no comparison with their current scores compared to what they use to get with the Model 66. The semi-auto pistol is absolutely NOT easier than the revolver to shoot and use proficiently! That is another undisputable fact advanced by one of the post writers here! Those of us who have shot, many years, many guns, all types, shapes, sizes, and calibers will tell you the same thing; the revolver is many times more easier for a beginner than the pistol, hands down! The culture of this country has lead to the wrong-headed change in law enforcement to the pistol from the revolver. If our country continues to sink, as it has the past 40-50 years we made need to go to the combat scenario of one size fits all because we will be put into positions in street to street firefights of ammo interchange. We are not there yet! So, I will steadfastly hold on to my Colt Official Police until the barbarians start coming into the streets of Rome. Thank you my friends and please forgive an old cops rant! I don't mean any harm but for too long I have battled admin-folks over this flaming burning issue for me!
David
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