Vacuum Sealing Your Handguns
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Personally I don't see the point in it and find it unattractive but to each their own. It is makes YOU feel better have at it.
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I wouldn't trust rem oil for a long term storage protector. Maybe a coat of renaissance wax? Don't feel the need for the vacuum either but I don't see how it could hurt.
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So now the myriad chemicals in the plastic are reacting with the oil or whatever in direct contact with your gun. I'd cut it out right now. However it's a great idea for ammo like my 50rnd pocket packs.
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I have already removed it from the plastic bag. Just did it to give a visual aid when I raised the question of whether it is a good idea or not.
Seems to me there would still be a benefit of less chance of corrosion in a vacuum sealed package - especially down here in Florida.
Perhaps Ren Wax (in leiu of Rem Oil) and then wrapping the gun in wax paper before vacuum sealing. - ?????
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Vacuum sealing is a good way to protect firearms, but not in standard plastic bags and not without VCPI protection.
Standard bags, even freezer types will not only pass moisture, they contain moisture.
I met a man who worked in a plastics factory that made bulk plastic sheeting for use in various plastic bags.
He told me that once the plastic was made it has to be dried to remove the excess moisture before it could be further processed.
To get proper protection you need to use the special plastics that are made for storage of electronics and metals. This "hard" plastic will prevent passage of moisture and air.
When combined with VCPI protection a gun is as well protected as it's possible to be, for at least 10 years or more.
You can buy bags and VCPI sheets or bags with the VCPI already in the bag from Brownell's:
GUNWRAP? PAPER | Brownells
TRIPLE TOUGH? PREMIUM STORAGE BAGS | Brownells
VACUUM SEAL STORAGE BAGS | Brownells
Standard bags, even freezer types will not only pass moisture, they contain moisture.
I met a man who worked in a plastics factory that made bulk plastic sheeting for use in various plastic bags.
He told me that once the plastic was made it has to be dried to remove the excess moisture before it could be further processed.
To get proper protection you need to use the special plastics that are made for storage of electronics and metals. This "hard" plastic will prevent passage of moisture and air.
When combined with VCPI protection a gun is as well protected as it's possible to be, for at least 10 years or more.
You can buy bags and VCPI sheets or bags with the VCPI already in the bag from Brownell's:
GUNWRAP? PAPER | Brownells
TRIPLE TOUGH? PREMIUM STORAGE BAGS | Brownells
VACUUM SEAL STORAGE BAGS | Brownells
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My old stand-by is 50/50 mix of motor oil and Three-In-one machine oil. Oil heavily then wipe down with a paper shop towel. I store my gun in gun rugs after this treatment, all of which is frowned upon by those better informed than I. But after over fifty years of this practice, I'm not about to change now.
And, yes, some have been stored for several years in this manner. I do check them about once every five years. Others get out more often.
Bob Wright
And, yes, some have been stored for several years in this manner. I do check them about once every five years. Others get out more often.
Bob Wright
Strange how preferences for metal treatments evolve. If I recall correctly, 3-in-1 Oil was the poorest oil for rust protection in the test that found Eezox the best by far. (The motor oil is obviously providing the protection desired.) Rem Oil also performed poorly.
Under ordinary storage conditions, most any preservative will be adequate. It is under extreme conditions that the differences become apparent. The Eezox test was a salt spray test and extreme humidity test as I recall. The "extreme" part comes in when a pipe breaks, a roof leaks or the basement floods, wetting down the storage area. THEN the best products, AND plastic bags, prove their worth.
I stored guns in ORDINARY plastic bags for decades before I built my vault room and never had a problem of any kind, so I am skeptical about the dangers of them for storage. Before the gun rugs took up too much room in my limited storage space, I stored guns in them for decades as well, again with no problem. In both cases, I had treated the guns with my preservative of choice at the time (first CLP and then Tetra-Gun), and put them in the bags "bare."
Now my handguns are really "bare," stored in my vault room standing on their muzzles in filing cabinets, coated only with Eezox.
Under ordinary storage conditions, most any preservative will be adequate. It is under extreme conditions that the differences become apparent. The Eezox test was a salt spray test and extreme humidity test as I recall. The "extreme" part comes in when a pipe breaks, a roof leaks or the basement floods, wetting down the storage area. THEN the best products, AND plastic bags, prove their worth.
I stored guns in ORDINARY plastic bags for decades before I built my vault room and never had a problem of any kind, so I am skeptical about the dangers of them for storage. Before the gun rugs took up too much room in my limited storage space, I stored guns in them for decades as well, again with no problem. In both cases, I had treated the guns with my preservative of choice at the time (first CLP and then Tetra-Gun), and put them in the bags "bare."
Now my handguns are really "bare," stored in my vault room standing on their muzzles in filing cabinets, coated only with Eezox.
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The first thought that oozed out of my noggin was I wondered how the plastic in direct contact with the gun all over would react over time when vacuum sealed. I see that Dfaris addressed the possible repercussions of that. I don't suspect storing in a standard plastic bag would be as bad.
gun storage and long term storage is a favorite topic of debate.. argument.. small scale war.. and even sometimes a simple discussion.
Many do not like the Rem oil because it has been said that it may not perform as well as other lubricant/protectants from moisture. I'm just the messenger on that information.
Many agree that Renaissance Wax is a top long term protector. I switched to using "Renn Wax" a few years ago after joining the Colt Forum. I have been happy so far and the guns look great while protected. don't know for sure how long term performance is, but short term it won't fingerprint with a proper coat of Renn wax. The Smithsonian uses it.. thats the seller for me.
gun storage and long term storage is a favorite topic of debate.. argument.. small scale war.. and even sometimes a simple discussion.
Many do not like the Rem oil because it has been said that it may not perform as well as other lubricant/protectants from moisture. I'm just the messenger on that information.
Many agree that Renaissance Wax is a top long term protector. I switched to using "Renn Wax" a few years ago after joining the Colt Forum. I have been happy so far and the guns look great while protected. don't know for sure how long term performance is, but short term it won't fingerprint with a proper coat of Renn wax. The Smithsonian uses it.. thats the seller for me.
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Yes...good mention.Thought I might throw this in, if you coat your pistoles with any heavy coating of oil or grease you will want to remove wood grips and store them seperate as they will soak up the stuff. Just a thought.
Proper Storage protection is worth thinking about...all it takes is a leaking Roof, a flood, broken Pipe or other, and, unless they are in a Safe, there can be some disappointment.
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I have several NIB guns stored in vacuum sealed bags. They have been like this for about 5 years now. I have changed bags twice in that time. Before sealing them, they were sprayed with a long term storage oil that dried to form a film on the metal. I dont remember what the name of it is, but it has worked just fine in a high humidity environment. I agree with Dfaris, the plastic needs to be " dried out " before use.
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So we all agree, a solution in search of a problem. I live in South Florida and my central air suits my guns just fine.
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I am like the others, not a huge fan of Rem Oil, but I do see how sealing could be beneficial. I personally use Eezox on my all of my guns. It can work as a cleaner and lube, preservative. That's my 2 cents worth.Pictured is my 1928 vintage Police Positive 38.After a good cleaning and a light wipedown with Rem Oil, I vacuum sealed it for long-term storage.Is this a good idea or not?
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I think you have me sold on this product. Are you a salesman?
. Anyway, thanks for the information!
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I'm sure there's at least one gun toting, oil wiping person that doesn't like Renn Wax.. but that guy doesn't like ice cream either. (just joking).. to each his own, right.
but I like easy and Renn Wax goes on easy and can be wiped off basically by the time you finish coating the gun. some like to let it dry awhile. It's safe for everything that comes on a gun .. ivory, wood, plastic, so it does not hurt grips over time. If you don't get all the wax off, its not going to hurt anything. wood grips and oil is bad, as previously mentioned. Renn Wax polishes off well and the gun looks the best and glossiest that it can possibly look. It appears that nothing is on it after being wiped off, but if it has been properly coated then you will notice that you cannot put a fingerprint on the metal as you could before the wax was applied. So you can still handle the gun and re-apply if needed, so its not like being in a state where you can't handle your babies when the need arises. It's magic. Them dang Brits .. It's an English product I believe.
btw... I keep looking at that police positive in the vacuum seal and just get the urge to thaw it in the sink ..
but I like easy and Renn Wax goes on easy and can be wiped off basically by the time you finish coating the gun. some like to let it dry awhile. It's safe for everything that comes on a gun .. ivory, wood, plastic, so it does not hurt grips over time. If you don't get all the wax off, its not going to hurt anything. wood grips and oil is bad, as previously mentioned. Renn Wax polishes off well and the gun looks the best and glossiest that it can possibly look. It appears that nothing is on it after being wiped off, but if it has been properly coated then you will notice that you cannot put a fingerprint on the metal as you could before the wax was applied. So you can still handle the gun and re-apply if needed, so its not like being in a state where you can't handle your babies when the need arises. It's magic. Them dang Brits .. It's an English product I believe.
btw... I keep looking at that police positive in the vacuum seal and just get the urge to thaw it in the sink ..
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