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Watch out for reproduction stocks on this Python

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And for a gun with so few round through it, and spending a lot of time in the safe for the past 50 years, it sure does have a lot of muzzle wear.

I'm also suspicious of the box.
Those stocks are from the North Carolina Colt guy. Brass hardware, exotic wood.
A Great Laugh!

I find this listing amusing and encouraging. The seller of this ridiculously packaged Python is so lazy that there is nothing correct, from the stocks to the laughable "Congratulations" letter signed by Ron Whitaker (who didn't become Colt President until the middle 1990s), to the 1970s era reproduction manual. Yet, it is unashamedly pushed as coming from the original owner's safe after 50 years. Wow! What a character; and this guy wants your hard, and honestly earned money.

When you look at Python listing these days, pay attention to all the items that are packaged with it. A counterfeiter never gets it right.
Even though the grips are not factory Colt's, or correct, I still they they are an attractive set. If they felt good in the hand I would have a set for one of my shooters
Here is the message I just sent to this seller:

"Dear Seller:

With no intent to offend, this 1963 Python "package" appears to be a made-up one. The full-checkered stocks ended in 1960, and would not have been installed on a 1963 Python. The box looks like it might be a reproduction, but, without better pictures, I cannot be sure. However, this style of box was not in use in 1963 anyway. The manual pictured was not in use in 1963. (That can be verified by looking at the copyright date on the manual.)

With these facts, this "package" should not be represented as original. You should note that in your listing so as not to mislead anyone."

These fake "packages" are really getting out of hand. By keeping watch and noting them here, maybe we can head off a few.
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He SAID they're "EARLY"!!! Can't you people read?
I wasn't as tip toe as JudgeColt, here is what I said...

You say helping the Wounded Warriors Fund is the right thing to do??? Why don't you evaluate your offering of cheap aftermarket grips, fake box from the wrong era, congratulations letter from the wrong era, and make amendments to your listing as to not mislead people into spending their hard earned dollars on a Python Package that certainly is not what it seems?
That would the the Right thing to do....
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as he stated "Add this quality Colt to your collection, you will be glade you did."
Yep, gonna need some air freshener when the buyer realizes he bought a faked package and poops his drawers.... :rolleyes:
Lol I got the old fellas attention, he posted in his ad for me to kiss his rear! Lol. I suggested he perhaps didSome Research and learned about what he was offering the public but I'm sure my comments are unwelcomed at this point.
I would say you got more than his attention.........lol


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I have had several people question the authenticity on parts of this offering, from the grips to the paper Colt letter, to the box. All I can say to this is, I don't know, I am not a Colt collector but I will listen to one. What I am sure of is, this complete offering was purchased from an estate as a set and offered here for sale with no statement from me as to it being completely authentic or not. I do NOT or will NOT mislead buyers in anyway, so if someone has placed a bid and thinks they were mislead, I would encourage them to cancel their bid within the next 48 hours.....NOW....That being said, when someone questions an auction that's fine but when someone questions my support and commitment to The Wounded Warriors Project that crosses the line. I may not be the big Colt collector on the block but I do know what the wounded Vet feels and confronts every day of his or her life. So you want to get personal, Keystone Arms...step right up and kiss this wounded old warrior's ass!!!
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To the seller's credit, he thanked me for my note pointing out the issues.
Even though the grips are not factory Colt's, or correct, I still they they are an attractive set. If they felt good in the hand I would have a set for one of my shooters
They are cheap made stocks,they used to sell here in ky for $45 a set.
That may be but in the pics they look attractive to me. I really do not care about what the cost of something is if it is appealing to me. Everyone has an opinion :).
They are cheap made stocks,they used to sell here in ky for $45 a set.
The high bidder must be thinking, "Oh hell, what did I get myself into?"

I see the seller deleted his kind words to Marc. :)
+1 for Hopalong's sentiments. That bidder must be more freaked out than me when I had that guy ask me at the gun shop to step outside to talk to him BEFORE I pay for that Python.. as I am writing the check for it !
In the bidder's case, there is apparently reason to be in major concern, just judging from the discrepancies noted in the posts. These discrepancies that are fairly easily observed by the experienced is exactly why the novices like myself to Pythons better be careful when diving in to the deep end of the pool.
as for the romantic comments of smooching the shiny parts, one has to imagine how much work it is for a blue chip firearms dealer like Marc and other highly reputable dealers to locate, prep, market, sell, and deliver (and I am not a dealer..) a much sought after and/or rare item. then, see an obvious sheep in shepherd's clothing up for auction or partial robbery, whichever the case may be. This has to be upsetting and liken to running an honest race whilst watching the competitor strap on rocket shoes. just bound to make ya slightly perturbed.
and in final thoughts before we break for commercial.. does doing the wrong thing for a good cause, still a good thing?? I might be ducking behind my keyboard now, although its aluminum and not steel plated.
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Thanks to you guys that contacted the seller to point out his lies.

I am somewhat amazed that the bidding is at 1725!

Red flags apparently do not faze some bidders.
Thanks to you guys that contacted the seller to point out his lies.

I am somewhat amazed that the bidding is at 1725!

Red flags apparently do not faze some bidders.

At 1725.00 its still less than half price of what a true NIB perfect gun of that vintage will bring. The buyer may be a guy who don't want to pony up for the real deal, he may all too well just exactly what he is buying ? You can't outguess the public or what they will buy or what they will pay or especially why. What I can tell you for sure, is I have no place for that little jewel in my stable.


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