[jrprich]

Title says it.

I would like to look into getting a .45 ACP cylinder for my 3rd Gen New Frontier 45LC.
What is required and who does the work. I assume that I can't just buy a cylinder........it would need to be timed to the Colt.

 

[Hondo44]

jr,

You need about $238 + shipping. Order from Brownell's or Colt. Use your existing cyl bushing and it's a drop in. No fitting required. It would be very unusual for any timing correction to be needed. It might take awhile if Colt doesn't have any in inventory when you order.

Jim

 

[ussmanlovede36]

I would give colt a call. I think they need to fit the cylinder to your NF. the hard part might be getting colt on the phone, you just have to be patient. I don't think it's a drop in part because of the variation in colt frames. good luck and lets us know if you get one and how it shoots.

 

[jrprich]

jr,

You need about $238 + shipping. Order from Brownell's or Colt. Use your existing cyl bushing and it's a drop in. No fitting required. It would be very unusual for any timing correction to be needed. It might take awhile if Colt doesn't have any in inventory when you order.

Jim

Hondo,

I cannot locate any cylinders at Brownell's.
Midway has them listed, but on BO until at least 6/2014 ;^(
Colt Cylinder (Only) Colt Single Action Army 45 ACP Blue

ussman,
I will try calling Colt.

 

[LEO918]

It has always worked for me as a drop in - no fitting required.

 

[Hondo44]

Hondo,

I cannot locate any cylinders at Brownell's.
Midway has them listed, but on BO until at least 6/2014 ;^(
Colt Cylinder (Only) Colt Single Action Army 45 ACP Blue

ussman,
I will try calling Colt.

That's much cheaper than the 45 Colt cylinder which are priced the highest. I don't know why Colt cylinder prices vary so much.

The most likely fitting issue is the over all length which is taken care of by using the existing cyl bushing. So I'd be very surprised if it wasn't a drop in fit.

 

[c.marsh]

try PEACEMAKERSPECIALIST.COM. for a cylinder 45acp...

 

[jrprich]

try PEACEMAKERSPECIALIST.COM. for a cylinder 45acp...

Thanks for the tip.
Wow, they are much more expensive than Midway or Colt
45 ACP, Blue ............................................................................................$ 325.00
45 ACP, Nickel .........................................................................................$ 325.00

 

[what would you say]

I would guess that anyone that actually had them and ready to deliver may know it and price as such.

 

[jrprich]

Update 9/23

I called Colt and got right through..........but the bad news is that the CS at Colt said that they do not have and do not carry .45 ACP cylinders for the Colt NF. He directed me to PEACEMAKERSPECIALIST.COM.

So it looks like two choices left,
pony up for $325. @ PEACEMAKERSPECIALIST.COM or
get on Midway's BO list which currently says 6/6/2014.
But if Colt is no longer producing these cylinders then Midway's date is useless.
Doing some math based on GUNBOT.NET's current pricing on .45ACP and 45LC (.21 cheaper per round) it would take 1,548 rounds to make up the $325.00 cost of the .45ACP cylinder. But the additional cylinder could add value to my NF.

Thoughts?

 

[Hondo44]

Yes, a couple of thoughts.

Most CS information is not usually reliable. We know Colt hasn't produced the NF with ACP cyl. But doesn't CS know the cylinder for the New Frontier is the same as the SAA??? Midway would not list it if Colt didn't make it. I would call Colt again, hopefully get a different CS person and this time ask for a 45 ACP cyl for a SAA.

I wouldn't pay $325 for any Colt cylinder.

 

[jrprich]

Yes, a couple of thoughts.

Most CS information is not usually reliable. We know Colt hasn't produced the NF with ACP cyl. But doesn't CS know the cylinder for the New Frontier is the same as the SAA??? Midway would not list it if Colt didn't make it. I would call Colt again, hopefully get a different CS person and this time ask for a 45 ACP cyl for a SAA.

I wouldn't pay $325 for any Colt cylinder.

Good point, guess I should have just asked for a 3rd Gen SAA 45 ACP cylinder?

 

[ussmanlovede36]

Good point, guess I should have just asked for a 3rd Gen SAA 45 ACP cylinder?

yes you need to tell them it's for a third gen saa. they told me not to long ago that they no longer work on 2nd gen saa.

 

[jrprich]

Well this got more weird today when I called Colt a second time. Asked if I could buy a 45ACP cylinder for a 3rd Gen SAA and the CS rep told me that they do not sell cylinders direct to the retail customers. She told me that they only sell these to companies that resell them to the public. She then suggested Cylinder & Slide, Peacemaker specialties, and ColtParts.com. Checking their websites only Peacemaker Specialties list 45ACP cylinders for $335. I did email C&S and CP to see if they have or can get the cylinders.
When I pressed her a bit on selling me one, she said they only have them available to "repair" 3rd gen SAA. So if I could not locate one from the retailers I could send in my Colt and have a cylinder fitted at Colt.......but only if it was a 3rd Gen SAA.

Update:
called C&S and was told that have none. I asked if they could order one, yes BUT told me they if ordered from Colt they may or may not ever get one. Payment would be required up front but he did not have a price.

called Peacemaker specialties, nice lady said that they might have one but their gunsmith will have to call me back to verify.

called ColtParts.com twice, no answer.

I went ahead and ordered a backorder cylinder from Midway but they don't expect any for 7-8 months.

I will keep looking. If anyone sees one or has one they might want to sell, please let me know.

Thanks,

jim

 

[what would you say]

It's the work that makes the berry so sweet , aint it Jim..

 

[jrprich]

It's the work that makes the berry so sweet , aint it Jim..

:bang_wall: Well I might agree.................. IF I could actually get my hands on the berry

I called Peacemaker Precision again and spoke to their gunsmith, they have one blue for $325.00. ouch!
But I bought it anyway as I am tired of this chase and I happen to have a couple of thousand .45ACP on hand..........but only 25 45LC left.

I appreciate everyone's help!

If my luck runs as usual someone will email me with a new .45ACP cylinder for $150 later this week.

The next issue will be the bushing and if it will work..........

 

[Hondo44]

jr,

I changed my mind from post above; I would have done the same thing, life is too short to wait! I don't believe you'll have an issue with the bushing, at least I never have. If for some strange reason the cyl is too long for your frame with your bushing in it, just get another bushing and fit it to your acp cyl and frame. If too short spacers will be almost as much as another bushing. So again, just get another bushing.

Jim

 

[skwcoltguy]

Jim, that experience with Colt sounds weird. They just made 30 SAA in .45ACP for me, and who knows how many for the Wiley Clapp clone of my idea......they have them. Contact Brent, they still list them in the custom shop price list.

 

[Hondo44]

Jim, that experience with Colt sounds weird. They just made 30 SAA in .45ACP for me, and who knows how many for the Wiley Clapp clone of my idea......they have them. Contact Brent, they still list them in the custom shop price list.

SKW,

In my opinion, this is not too unusual. When gun companies have limited production parts like the 45 ACP cyl, in inventory, they generally hold onto them so they're available for custom orders and/or repairs. If they run out before another production run, they would have to turn away business for custom orders and repair orders which have a greater potential for extra revenue compared to just the markup on a single cyl sale. Ruger admits this, Colt apparently told Jim the same thing on his 2nd call.
Jim

 

[what would you say]

:bang_wall: Well I might agree.................. IF I could actually get my hands on the berry I called Peacemaker Precision again and spoke to their gunsmith, they have one blue for $325.00. ouch! But I bought it anyway as I am tired of this chase and I happen to have a couple of thousand .45ACP on hand..........but only 25 45LC left.I appreciate everyone's help! If my luck runs as usual someone will email me with a new .45ACP cylinder for $150 later this week.The next issue will be the bushing and if it will work..........

That could very well happen, and if one comes along, I'd say buy it up too. Keep whichever you like best and it appears the spare would be an easy sell since extra cylinders have turned into the rarity of hen's teeth it seems.