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OK, would like some input! Do you like Factory Colt Semi-Guide Spring System? Do you like Two Piece System? Or the harder to take down one piece Guide Rod?

I'm having A Custom Commander Built, and I need to pick a Guide Rod System.

Would like input on all of the above, Good Or Bad!

And any thoughts on the Haart's BB's in the Mercury Type System? Good Or Bad?

How about the Tungston Type? Good Or Bad?

Thanks For Your Opinion Or Any Info you may have!

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There's a LOT of argument on this subject, but many custom pistolsmiths will privately tell you that the various guide rods are installed because most customers demand them.

Customers demand them because most of the custom guns have them.

Some 'smiths believe the guide systems are beneficial to accuracy or reliability, some don't.

Basically, there is no discernible difference between the original recoil spring guide John Browning designed, and the latest captive-spring long rod systems.

A gunsmith that builds high-quality 1911's can build it either way, and there will be no difference.

I'd ask your chosen pistolsmith what HE prefers, and have him do it that way.

The various buffer systems like tungsten and the mercury or BB recoil-reducing systems are really for high-end Match "Race guns" where a top World Class pro shooter can squeeze a fraction of a second out of a stage with the very slight difference.

It's common in most things for people to want the features top pros have on their equipment, whether it's golf, cars, or shooting.

People see a pro using something, and figure that if he's got it, it MUST work for them also.
The fact is, most shooters are simply not at the level a pro is, and the feature is of no practical value to them.

It's just the "gotta have it" syndrome.

My first move in your case is to decide WHAT you're going to use the gun FOR.

Be serious. If this is a Match gun, then the sky and your wallet are the limit.

If it's a "toy" that you want to take to the range and plink at targets with, then get what you want and can afford.

However, if this is a serious defense gun, you're better off going the other way.
When your life is at risk, simple is better, and the KISS principal is king.

In a defense gun, all the "gotta have it's" like guide rods only complicate the gun, and in MOST cases actually REDUCE reliability.

The ONE, MAIN thing for a defense gun is RELIABILITY. Not much really matters other than that.
ALL a defense gun must be capable of doing, is to reliably hit a man in the chest area at 50 yards.

In a real gun fight, you'll thank God if you can actually do that.
One real "man killer" expert says that accuracy of 6 inches at 6 feet is enough.

The problem is, most people judge a pistol on accuracy, and demand target gun-like performance, ALWAYS at the expense of reliability.

So, bottom line: What are you REALLY going to use the gun for?
You don't build an Million dollar plus Indianapolis racing car to drive to the store for bread.
You also don't bring the family Chevy to Le Mans.

Do a HONEST "real world" analysis of your needs, AND of each and EVERY custom feature and part of you projected 1911.

EVERYTHING you add to a 1911 beyond the original Colt 1911 design give certain benefits, and has certain costs in reliability and simplicity....BE HONEST with yourself.

Answer your own question....what real world need does a non-original type recoil guide serve, other than the "gotta have it" thing?

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dfasriswheel has hit the nail on the head yet AGAIN.You do the one thing so few people do these days"THINK" darn near a lost art.Too many leave it"THINKING" to others.Glad to see there is at least one more THINKER in the world.Thanks for the RIGHT THOUGHTS.modoc

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