[Wyatt Burp]

Deal didn't happen and picture pulled.................... It's in a local ad and is marked "Traditions". I usually stick with Uberti, but if it's made by Pietta I'm cool with that. Armi San Marco is a different story, but for $275 I will take a chance on it. Heat treating of internal parts have been inferior on the four ASM guns I've owned, yet they were beautiful guns. I don't know who made this for Traditions. Still waiting for that info from the seller. I said I'd take it pending inspection. Anyone here have any experience with Traditions products? It would be great if it was Uberti but I doubt it.

 

[saintclair]

Wyatt, I picked up a Traditions conversion a couple years ago and found it to be very well made. Like you, I purchased it because the price was low for what appeared to be good quality. I know Traditions made some kit guns that one could assemble themselves, but they also sold their completed guns through places like Cabelas, I believe.

 

[twaits]

That would make such a great little snubnose

 

[Rio]

If that's a factory conversion then it's likely a Uberti or Pietta as I don't think ASM did them. Some of the Traditions BP long guns are made by Ardesa in Spain.

Rio

 

[Chaffee]

For $275, I don't think you can go wrong, regardless of mfg.

 

[kenhwind]

For $275, I don't think you can go wrong, regardless of mfg.

I no I'd be inclined to go for it at that price, because thats one of my "That would be neat and fun to shoot guns" I'd like to get.

 

[Wyatt Burp]

I no I'd be inclined to go for it at that price, because thats one of my "That would be neat and fun to shoot guns" I'd like to get.

If I didn't get it I would never get one later because I wouldn't spend more thinking of the one I passed up back in 2013 for $275.

 

[saintclair]

That would make such a great little snubnose

twaits: I traded mine to a friend who cut it off such that the barrel ended just a fraction of an inch beyond the ejector rod housing. He put the front sight back on and loves that gun.

 

[Wyatt Burp]

Well, I'm not getting it. I wrote the guy about a place to meet that was closer to him and asked if it's an Armi San Marco. He wrote a scathing reply that he had no intention to meet me anywhere except his favorite store (which he didn't mention in the ad) and that I must not know anything about guns if I was expecting a $1,000 gun for $275 for daring to ask a few questions, blah, blah, blah. I wrote him that I now wanted him to drive to me, I'd only pay a $100 for it, and I wanted a big Christmas ribbon around it. I've always met at a neutral place to buy/sell stuff and have a 100% rating on this site. No material object is worth dealing with an overly tempermental...well, you know.

 

[chaosrob]

Traditionally I always looked at it as the buyers responsibility to come to me if I am selling something, as I do for dellers when I am buying. I do not see anything wrong with the seller setting the place to meet. I've never had a gun store come to me when I wanted to purchase something . I am sure that you were just the end of a bad day for him of dealing with crackpots hammering him on his pistol. Everyone here who has listed a firearm for sale can tell you all about it. Sounds like it wasn't the gun or deal for you and you will be just as well off without it.

 

[Wyatt Burp]

Traditionally I always looked at it as the buyers responsibility to come to me if I am selling something, as I do for dellers when I am buying. I do not see anything wrong with the seller setting the place to meet. I've never had a gun store come to me when I wanted to purchase something . I am sure that you were just the end of a bad day for him of dealing with crackpots hammering him on his pistol. Everyone here who has listed a firearm for sale can tell you all about it. Sounds like it wasn't the gun or deal for you and you will be just as well off without it.

I've always met sellers at a place of their choosing. Sometimes we discuss a mutual place in the middle which I mentioned to him in this case. I always say I'll drive up to one hour if I'm the seller. Some guys write something like "Will do Transaction at Acme Sports only" close to them. Fine. But this guy got all pizzed because I couldn't read his mind. And just because he's got a great price on this gun if it works good, he took offense that I asked one question about the maker saying "it's Italian" and "If you don't want, I'd rather find someone without such high expectation." and if I want to buy a $1,000 Colt then go buy a $1,000 Colt. Well, I think I just might save up and take his advice.

 

[rayb]

Re: the italian "conversions".

In my limited experience with these I've accumulated a 2 made by/from Uberti; one built as new for Cimarron Arms (thru Mike Harvey's Texas Jack retail outlet), and one by a private individual, made before any factory models were available. Both work ok; the Uberti factory job is nicely made and operates well with 45 Colt cowboy loads. The private job works well also, I've restricted it to 38 "Long Colt" black powder loads.

Currently have 2 conversions by Gren, who's no longer in business, probably the best workmanship in what revolvers I have so far. Good workmanship, smooth triggers, no issues. Not sure how many were made, but probably low numbers.

I contacted another fellow who is doing custom conversions and modifications, he looked at what I believe is an ASM i was proposing to convert and said it was not suitable due to certain size characteristics, and possible material issues. He recommended Pietta manufacture or Uberti, and seemed to like the Piettas as a basis for extensive conversion. He has a website with some interesting information; I can send it to interested parties.

Summary: It appears Uberti & Piettas are both a sound basis for conversions, either factory or by gunsmiths with experience in this type of work.
Others brands may require additional attention, and therefor additional expense to convert.

This is my experience only, and is certainly not an "expert" opinion.

rayb

edit to add: I returned to home base today and looked closely at a Traditions 1860 Army I had, the only revolver i know is a Traditions brand for sure. It was made by Armi San Marco.
Sorry you didn't get the one you were looking at.


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