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Okay I have had this thing for a few years but am not really sure what I have. I "think" this is a trapper model. Barrel is just over 16" and overall length is 34". This is chambered in 30/30. It is in really good condition, but does not have a box. Can anyone give me helpful info? TIA

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Yep, I've got one just like it. Not to far off in numbers either.
Well, well, well. You have the EXACT gun I've been looking for. It's a 1980ish Trapper that has all the features of a special ordered Trapper of the 1890s. The shotgun butt is the visual giveaway, but that great butt pad with Winchester logo is nice! Actually, that shotgun butt might have been available special order way back when. I saw one of these some years back for $275. I had to sell my friend a holster to get it. but he lagged one day and it was gone and I missed out. Notice the front sight is a post like the old 94's, not a ramp. I almost took my pre 64
30-30 (1956) to the gunshow this weekend to trade for your gun, but I promised my friend I'd keep the gun for a year after buying it just in case he wanted it back. I have a month to go so didn't do it. Thanks for the big tease. If you ever want to sell or trade it, let me know. I'm feeling pretty jealous right now!
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What are they worth Wyatt, I have no idea what the value is.
Break out that Webley Mark V and I'll trade you Wyatt
Value somewhere around $700.00-900.00 waxed and polished up and good pictures maybe a bit more.
The 30-30 and the 45 Colt chambered guns were called "Trapper". The 32 Winchester Special and 38-55 guns were labeled "Wrangler". My Wrangler 32 W.S. is marked on the left side of the barrel as Wrangler. I have never seen one in 38-55, but I'm still looking. Mine was built by Olin-Winchester in the later years prior to selling out to USRA, 1979 or so. Blue Book says that about 7900 of the Wranglers were built, most in 32.
The centerfire post 64 trappers came in 30-30, 44 magnum, 45 Colt, and 357 magnum. The 45 Colt and the 357s are the scarcest with the 357 probably being the lowest production numbers. The most desirable usually go with the 45 Colt and 357 magnum neck and neck, but I prefer the 45 with the 357 a very close second, then the 44 magnum, and then the 30-30 (of which there were probably more of these made than the rest put together). I have owned every caliber in these and have owned most variations I have ever seen. I collected them for a long time, and there was one variation I could not find for a long time to "complete my set" I wanted. Of course after I gave up and sold a few, I found it a couple months later lol. I finally ended up selling most of them just because the 2 safes were getting too full and I didn't have room for a 3rd. The trappers were the cutest and best looking 94s ever made imo. I always focused on the centerfires because were the best looking to me with the 94 frame, short barrel, and big bore. They also made the 9422 trappers in 22 LR and 22 magnum and these are the most desirable of all if you include them with the magnum being the most desirable. I always thought they were a little "too small" with the 9422 frame and that little barrel. These have gone up considerably in the past couple years, and you will have to dig deep into your pocket to get a nice one of these, especially the 22 magnum.
Your 30-30 will be more desirable than the others in 30-30 (except for the case colored one or maybe a large looped one) because it is a pre-safety trapper. I would put value in really nice condition (say 99%) around 600-800. It would sell fast at 600. If you still had the original box and papers, it would probably push 1000. as always JMHO.
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Here's my Trapper .30-30.....



And the Wrangler II, .38-55



And a .44 mag SRC just for the heck of it....



I have a Wrangler in .32 spec, but not here so I can't photo it.
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Thanks guys, the help is truly appreciated.
Break out that Webley Mark V and I'll trade you Wyatt
I've never had a Webley Mark V, but if I had one I'd keep it! I can't stand the Winchester 94s with that horrible later safety and I would never own an angle eject. Personally, the 94 action designed for longer calibers never made sense to me with that clunckety-clunck action in pistol calibers. My Browning 92 or a Rossi 92 is a different story, though. The Trapper I saw for $275 was over ten years ago, come to think of it. I tried to negotiate for one like yours a couple years ago with lots of wear on it but the seller down in Fresno was a jerk so I didn't hassle it. His was $450, I think. I prefer one that shows use because they cost less and look more "old west". Or in the 94s case, "middle age west". I've actually considered having my 1956 94 in 30-30 turned into a saddle ring Trapper, but I'd be paying to change the originality on a pre 64 gun. And these are getting pricey. I remember in the 90s a post 64 30-30 was standard issue in pawn shops for $175.
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The 30-30 and the 45 Colt chambered guns were called "Trapper". The 32 Winchester Special and 38-55 guns were labeled "Wrangler".
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I have two of the 16 inch 1894's which I believed were called Trappers?? The 44-40 was made about 1985 and the 45 I believe in late 1990's or early 2000's?
I really had no intention of selling/trading it, I was really just curious what it was. I have had this for about 5 years or so and if memory serves me correctly I gave around 600 for it then, to help someone out. Thanks for all the info on it, Maybe one day I will shoot it if I ever get the gumption. I would definitely use it as a deer or hog gun if I ever get the time to do such things again
The last really good 94's that came from Winchester were the early Big Bore 94's(1978-79) in .375 Win, 348 Win. and another cartridge I can't remember. I am partial to the .375 Win. it's a pumped up 38-55, gorgeous polishing and bluing better wood and superb fit and finish with top eject and traditional safety or lack thereof,fabulous cast bullet shooter with any bullet suitable for the 38-55.
I also have a few of the model 94's in 357 and 22 mag. I believe there were trappers and a cheaper version called a ranger? Prices are creeping up on all of them if you can find them for sale!
The .348 WCF was a Model 71, an updared M1886
The "Big Bores" were .375; 307; & 356 IIRC

Had a Wrangler with the John Wayne loop lever. use to have fun twirling it
I never liked the hoop lever, pulled it off and installed a standard lever on my 32 Wrangler.
I never liked the hoop lever, pulled it off and installed a standard lever on my 32 Wrangler.
I went the other way - installed a loop on my 45 Trapper.

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