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A friend of mine knows and sees the following person:

It was a very big thing in my area a couple of years ago, but people fade out as the news does. Two Police Officers, one a woman, were called to a gas station robbery, and had a description of the perp: but vague: "young" was about it. So they see a young man walking down a main street nearby soon after and get out of their car to question him. They have just gotten in speaking range (remember, they have no reason except his youth to suspect him) and he pulls out a revolver and shoots the female Officer through the neck, then fires again. Her partner is too close to draw well he feels and get off a timely and accurate shot - he must 100% sure save her life NOW, at this INSTANT or she will continue to be shot - so he does the only thing he can to save the young woman's life: he is a big man and throws himself between the felon and his partner and hugs tightly the shooter attempting to get him down. Until he can do this he will take the shots his partner would have, hence the hug. And he does. HE is hit in the neck while in the death hug, then again in the shoulder, he continues to try and get the perp down, and finally, as he is passing out, throws all his weight on top of the guy, and they both finally go down, the big cop on top of the shooter. The cop reports later, he continues to hear "Click, Click, Click" after the shooter's gun is empty while he is laying on top of him, the guy is still trying to fire.

About every Officer and paramedic in the city appears then, the first-arriving cuffs the perp. Desperate efforts start to save the young woman's life, who says she can't feel anything anyplace and then stops breathing. Her partner is bleeding badly and before he looses consciousness keeps asking only how his young partner is. Then he is out too. We have a great Level I Trauma center, and they are taken their after they are stabilized at the scene, the man raced there, the woman slower, thoughts are she's been shot through her cervical spine, her spinal neck, she can't be bumped around at all or the bullet moves and she's dead. She is not breathing and being ventilated. On top of those already at the hospital and waiting, every medical specialist that can be found is rushed to the hospital by police from their homes as the ambulances and police escorts are on the way there.

Aftermath:
The male Officer survived and after awhile left the hospital. And after a longer while, returned to work. He was hailed as a hero, choosing to give his life to save his partner. He was given every police, official and unofficial award in the book.

He then was in two motorcycle accidents, one very bad, over the next two years. After all of it, he never could pull out of the mental effects of that night of his death-hug, forever depressed and erratic. He was broken. He retired. No one hears of him anymore.

The young female officer was saved, but she was paralyzed from the neck down, I don't think she can breathe on her own - though I'm not sure.
This is one reason her partner was in despair, he felt I guess that the gods wouldn't help her no matter how much he did for her that night. He couldn't handle this part -

My friend who knew her well before went to visit her, told me she was still the same; she is at some Home someplace being tended. Just the way my friend shook her head, made me too for a moment, despair of why such a heroic act of two most brave people, turned out to be this wasted mayhem. Who's Upstairs, anyone at all?
 

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Who's Upstairs, anyone at all?
i still believe in a loving God, i just don't understand how these kinds of things happen under His watch any more than you or anyone else.
we aren't supposed to know. :)
 

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"Why do bad things happen to good people" has been one of the most discussed, cussed, debated, and studied questions of Christian theology.
 

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Agency is the answer, God loves us so much he gave us free agency, he does not intercead becuase that would restrict others agency. God gave us everything we have, the ONLY thing we can give back is our Agency by choosing to follow him.
 

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Very Depressing,and yes, a tragedy. There are conditions worse than death. In some cases, one can be relieved that the victim (mercifully), died.
 

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Very Depressing,and yes, a tragedy. There are conditions worse than death. In some cases, one can be relieved that the victim (mercifully), died.
That's interesting, maybe that's the reason her partner never recovered psychologically - "I save her for THIS?"

Well, perhaps the fates will help him in the future to recover, as for his young partner, well I can't think of a possible positive there.....
 

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Viktor Frankl had an excellent perspective on it.

And he lived it instead of being just an educated observer.

Viktor Frankl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doc, thanks for posting this. Dr. Frankl's views on this were very interesting.
I had a 2nd cousin who recently passed away that survived 5 Nazi concentration camps. He was a joy to be around. Somehow he did not let his horrible experiences ruin the rest of his life.
 

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Doc, thanks for posting this. Dr. Frankl's views on this were very interesting.
I had a 2nd cousin who recently passed away that survived 5 Nazi concentration camps. He was a joy to be around. Somehow he did not let his horrible experiences ruin the rest of his life.
I read Dr Frankl's book: "Man's Search for Meaning" - a beautiful book. I highly recommend it to everyone.
 

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Truly was a tragedy, happened near me in Buffalo,NY in 2006. Officers Patty Parete, and Carl Andolina. Man has free will, some make the decision to use it for good, as the officers did, and some use it for evil, as the shooter did. Ultimately it is our decision how we live our lives, and our decisions frequently impact other people.
 

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When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit Pandora's box opened and ALL the bad poured out. They had it all except one thing and couldn't resist having that too! I believe there is still a plan in place for these two people or they wouldn't have survived! JMO!
 

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"Why do bad things happen to good people" has been one of the most discussed, cussed, debated, and studied questions of Christian theology.
Bad things happen to good people because simply we live in a fallen world. Ever since the "Garden of Eden" when Adam & Eve allowed sin into the world it has been in a broken state with sin & death prevailing. Many times innocent people suffer because of others sins. However the one to blame is the devil not God as Satan is the author of death. Many times we blame God for Satan's activities through his children. God is a loving God that offers us hope through the Gospel ""good news" of Jesus Christ......God Bless...pastorjeffp
 

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"This area is for discussions on all other gun related talk."

Sorry .
 
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