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Best years from Colt… specifically 1911’s?

13K views 25 replies 20 participants last post by  Windsor Arms  
#1 ·
Probably a controversial topic, but what were the best years from Colt, specifically the 1911?!

Over the years I’ve heard a lot of different answers from the very early production guns to the depression era guns to early 50’s all the way down to current production.

The explanation that makes most sense to me would be that the depression era Colts are the best to ever come from Colt. Here is why…

The smiths that worked at Colt during that time were likely the ones that had the best training, became masters by the 30’s and due to the depression had the most time to put into the guns because not a lot of people were buying guns. Less guns made means more time to build them and better quality control. They were really the original smiths from Colt did things a little different vs when factories were pumping out guns for the war… they also had parts that were not as rushed for war time as well…

What do you all say?
 
#6 ·
I like the new series 70s too . If colt polished them out to be as pretty as the original series 70s the price point might double and I believe they would lose market share I wish they would offer it as a option and show all us colt fans how it’s done and that would give a few of us the chance to Unlimber our pocketbook!!
 
#9 ·
Depression-Era meant more careful workers wanting to keep their well-paying jobs and with the benefits of experienced older machinists to mentor them...
Exactly. We see Depression-era films and photographs of gunmaking factories, staffed with workers who weren't afraid to get their hands dirty, craftsmen who worked to ensure the parts went together right and functioned correctly.

My own personal thoughts are that these practitioners of the gunmakers' art took a certain amount of pride in their work, even though they may have been just ordinary guys on an assembly line. They took pride in making something that lived up to its advertising. There may have been one guy at Colt whose sole job was to checker hammer spurs. Probably a sort of mundane job. But I'll bet he was an expert at it.

The best years from Colt for 1911s? Beats me. I don't think it's possible to come up with a definitive answer. I'd consider the Post-WWI years on through right before WWII as the 1911's Golden Years. It's interesting that they were looked on as just ordinary guns back then, guns that sold for $25 or less, but we see them today as things to be treasured and protected from harm. The same goes for wartime 1911A1s.

Here's a thought. Suppose Colt took a brand new, but still ordinary, 1911 pistol from...oh, let's say 1926. And using that gun as an example, made one exactly like it, using the exact same manufacturing and finishing techniques...how much would that pistol realistically cost today?
 
#11 ·
The steel used and heat treating of post-war guns is superior to the pre-war guns.

Workmanship varies, but "probably" the peak era was the 1930's.
However, as I've said, guns are not bottles of wine....there are no good or bad years, there are only good or bad individual guns. Each has to be judged on it's individual merits.

Buy a gun or not based on the year made and you may well get a dog. Pass one up based on the year and you may pass a gem.
One of the finest Colt Pythons I ever saw for workmanship of fit and finish was a later 1990's version, which people said was a crap era for quality.
One of the best was a strike era Python that was just about perfect in all respects. Everyone "knows" all those strike Colt's were junk.
 
#14 ·
I do not own any earlier models. I really want a 1913-1915 manufactured 1911. However, finding an unmolested one that does not cost an insane amount has prevented me from obtaining one. There is a lot of talk about Colt finish in this post and many others. I personally like the modern Gold Cup National Match. I think it has a great finish, all the right pieces to the puzzle as well. It is one of my favorites. The only thing I don't care for are the sights, but that is an easy fix.

If anyone is bored, here is a video I did of one a week or so ago when I got it in. This is not a sales post, just thought I would share so others can get a look at the finish. I actually secretly hope it does not sale.

 
#15 ·
The book "A Century of Achievement 1836 - 1936" gives a good insight into the manufacture of Colt handguns prior to WWII. It is a 100th year anniversary showing what Colt was manufacturing at the time, as well as a walk through all the process as a Colt was being manufactured.

Following WWII Colt immediately began transitioning away from the pre-war manufacturing practices.
 
#17 ·
The book "A Century of Achievement 1836 - 1936" gives a good insight into the manufacture of Colt handguns prior to WWII. It is a 100th year anniversary showing what Colt was manufacturing at the time, as well as a walk through all the process as a Colt was being manufactured.

Following WWII Colt immediately began transitioning away from the pre-war manufacturing practices.
You just reminded me. I have been trying to find an original print of that book that is in like new shape for awhile now. I need to resurrect my search :)
 
#19 ·
I am FAR from an expert but have been studying and collecting slowly. My purely anecdotal thoughts are, the prettiest, most elegant guns are, as mentioned multiple times already, are the interwar era guns. Right now my honey hole shop has both a MIB 1978 Ace, and a 1931 (1st year) Ace. The 78 is very nice and exactly what I lusted after as a kid back in the 70s/80s and is phenomenal, BUT, then I hold the 31 and it is PURE...poetry. SO smooth an action, gorgeous bluing despite showing honest wear, meticulous hammer checkering, and did I mention the action was SMOOOTH?

That said, not being a metallurgist, my gut tells me if you want a gun close to that earlier quality, but you wouldn't be reluctant to carry due to value or reliability, I'd go C-Series. Again, just my uneducated thoughts.
 
#22 ·
I can't say I agree with the OP's question. It's much like the "What kind of guns should I collect" question that new members often ask.

Manufacturing practices have changed over the years - while there is something very nice about how guns used to be made (hand-finished, hand-fitted parts, finishes, polishing, etc.), that's not to say guns made now are worse - there is better metallurgy now, along with CNC machining, etc.).

Also something to be considered is the changing tastes of consumers. While the 1911's of the 1930s and 1940s were elegantly simple, people today expect a lot more - national match barrels, custom checkering, fancy sights, magazines that hold more than 7 rounds, etc. Guns from both timeframes have their pros and cons. But to say one is better than the other is misleading and incorrect.

As I've said before... if you see a gun and you like it (and you can afford it), then buy it. Do not get in the habit of apologizing because you like something different than others.