[Mikebiker]

Some banks, Chase for one, charge you a higher interest rate if you use your card thru a third party payment vendor. They treat it as a cash advance which has a higher interest rate. Something to think about when paying with a credit card. I wonder if the compliance fee will be waved if you use their payment platform? My last GB purchase was for 1,500.00 but the added fees, sales tax, compliance, 3% credit card, & shipping added $207.00 to the total. That was my first GB purchase since before COVID. I think long and hard now about how much I'll bid.
Regards
Dan

Unless buying face to face you will have to pay sales tax. 3 % credit card fee has become more or less standard these days. Transfer fees to your dealer are part of life. Compliance fee is 1% or 15.00 of the 1500 hundred price. Shipping is the only way to get it from place to place. None of these are Gunbrokers fault. Yes they add to the final price so you do have to consider all this when placing a bid.

Nothing is perfect. I have sold on eBay and Gunbroker for years and have done very well. I work for myself and answer to no one but me. I play by their rules and it works just fine. Most horror stories I hear are someone trying to play outside the rules or being just plain stupid. I have sold guns for stupid money and have earthly idea why they went so high but I just take the money and smile. Pride or stubbornness will only get in your way.

 

[inspcalahan]

Beans and silver.....

 

[7.62Kolectr]

Good for me. I only buy there.

 

[LanceW]

Good for me. I only buy there.

It is likely only a matter of time before it applies to buyers as well. I buy on GB but not sell, but will vote with my wallet and quit using them. GB has been archaic for years, and lacks support and communication. They don't really get involved in disputes with buyer's losing their money to scammers from the complaints i have always read, so why the sudden interest in verifying buyers?

 

[Ugly Hombre]

"and facial biometrics."

Wut?!

Not no but hell no.

 

[martin08]

Wow. Hidden in the fine print...

"In the highly unlikely event of an AI (Artificial Intelligence) takeover, please list in order of the greatest likelihood to the least, the top ten places you would choose to hide."

 

[HooPharted]

If I'm not mistaken, PayPal is owned by Ebay. Sounds like GB wants their own version. Easier to collect their share.

P-P does not allow for payments in firearms transactions, but people have been using it to send 'gift' cash.

Personally, I have no problem with P-P in almost 2000 transactions. They always came thru whenever I had a payment problem, which wasn't often.

But I will say goodbye to GB. I use it for reference, and to watch items at some local shops. Haven't bought or sold anything on there in years.

eBay created PP way back when the internet was just catching on , i remember the common consensus of folks was extremely nervous about banking and CC info on this new fangled web thing , so eBay created PP to by design ease anxiety about paying money over the internet by creating a "buyer friendly" way to do so in order to get people accustomed to it , and it did , it had the buyers back 100% and eBay took off as did PP

then eBay and PP divorced years later , around the time they said no more guns or assault weapon parts , i actually think they stopped gun sales before the divorce , anyway , once the two separated and became two separate entities , PP did a radical shift , they became more apt to side with sellers in disputes , after all , they are the money generators right? gotta keep them on the hook , thats when i said no to PP and closed the account when i got burned for something like $75

 

[BusaDave]

Who in their right mind would post their ID, photo, SS, bank # on line!

There is a plethora of stupid people who will go ahead and do this. The USG is still paying for the monitoring of my "personal information" due to a security breech where the database where everyone who holds a security clearance was compromised. I will not give my SSN out unless it is absolutely required and never on-line.

 

[Jimmy2Dogs]

I'll say this about GunBroker and its policies and procedures. We all profess to hate dislike GB, or some part of it. It's human nature to gripe about things we see as intrusive, time-consuming, and basically pointless.

Look at it this way, though. Thousands of Americans have used GunBroker to exercise their Second Amendment rights. I'm inherently mistrustful of online shopping, whether it's on GB, GI, Amazon, eBay, whatever. I stopped using PayPal years ago because I don't like anyone telling me how I can spend my money and what I can spend it on.

But I have to admit, if it weren't for GunBroker, I wouldn't own some of the guns I currently own. Because they aren't available around here. I might never have owned a 1918 Colt if I hadn't looked at a bunch of 'em on GB. Ditto for a 1944 Ithaca or a '43 Remington Rand. Not to mention how many Smiths I've bought over the years before I learned better.

So anyway, I suppose GB serves a purpose. It just becomes a question of how much B.S. you want to put up with.

 

[azshot]

All I know is I was required to allow an app to take a picture of my face for 2 government websites recently. Both were very innocous, like Recreation.gov to reserve a campsite. I also know my bank calls up a photo of me when I walk up to the teller. It's becomming a common way to try to verify the person buying something online with a debit card number actually IS that person. It's not that big a deal to me. A lot more secure than the old signature on the back of your debit card, which I've NEVER seen any vendor try to verify. You could write "Mickey Mouse" on the card and still buy things every day.

With AI and human scammers using the internet sites daily for nefarious purposes, it stands to reason the vendors are going to try to make gun sales more verifiable. They do for the sales of other things. Now I wish GB would more carefully deal with bidding shills, scammers using other people's photos, new members selling a gun that they may not own, and fraudlent descriptions. But that would be too hard.

 

[Mikebiker]

Be careful what you wish for. The fees on Gunbroker are low. This is because it is a small operation. If you want it run like eBay then expect to pay the same as in 13 to 14 percent. Gunbroker was recently sold and the new owners are moving slowly to fix some of the problems. If you want it faster then expect to pay for it.

The only thing that never changes is change itself. Keep up or be left behind. I know this is all Big Brother looking out for us and I hate it as much as the next guy but the only way to avoid it is to drop out of society or die. The end product as most of know is written in the book of Revelations.

 

[ignats]

I've never had a problem with GB I have both bought and sold and been a member since 2006.

 

[DSchmidt23]

If I recall correctly, Gunbroker made you use Bitrail for a while for any firearm purchases. Then that went away… But it required all the usual to set up as a normal $ account would.

 

[SHOOTER13]

3 words...

COUNT ME OUT

 

[mkk41]

GB wasn't much in the way of resolving conflicts between the sellers and buyers. With Ebay and Pay-Pal, they did make things right if you had a legitimate gripe. There were a few where items got 'lost' and I got no response from sellers, but P-P refunded me. They quickly notified me about a few potential UA charges or intrusions to my account too. Over 2000 purchases in 23yrs, and no complaints.

 

[Pat C.]

Been a member for 20 years ,doubtful I would use it if they require this. Most business put there phone numbers in adds .lots of times business name.This will lead to private sells .
Will backfire on them for sure.

Bought many guns off there ,always paid MO .
If they don't accept MO I don't look. Period.

Even ebay you can use gift card or Visa gift card . No need for bank account info.

 

[beemermark]

I wonder how much is GB greed and how much is government leaning on internet firearm companies.

 

[Mikebiker]

I wonder how much is GB greed and how much is government leaning on internet firearm companies.

Why do you call it greed? Their fees are much lower then any shop would be for consignment. Under 4 percent id not greedy. A featured auction costs 3.05 to list and schedule. That could be 3.05 for a 100 dollar gun or a 10,000 dollar gun.

If they add a payment company then they will charge fees just like a credit card company. Still don't see the greed.

 

[beemermark]

Why do you call it greed?

Most of the posts have been belly aching about GB requiring the use of "Outdoor Pay". My reference to greed is in deference to some 40+ posts about how evil GB is. I have no skin in the game, stopped using the site to buy from a long, long time ago. I live in a medium size city and can find a better selection of firearms at local dealers way, way cheaper than sellers on GB. But if you like them, then by all means keep buying.

 

[thecoltguy]

Why do you call it greed? Their fees are much lower then any shop would be for consignment. Under 4 percent id not greedy. A featured auction costs 3.05 to list and schedule. That could be 3.05 for a 100 dollar gun or a 10,000 dollar gun.

If they add a payment company then they will charge fees just like a credit card company. Still don't see the greed.

Very low one-time fee on Gunsinternationsl. No scammers, No final sale fees, No mandatory use of their system to pay, No sales tax collected, No facial biometrics, just easy transactions, and none of this new stuff that GB is implementing. It sounds like the new GB is going to have Big Brother watching over you and make sure that everything goes just fine. I knew there was a reason that I left GB many years ago and went over to GI.

Just my opinion,

Cam