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#1 ·
Just got and watched a copy of "The Highwaymen" with Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson portraying Frank Hamer and Maney Gault, the retired Texas Rangers brought in to track down Bonnie and Clyde.
Costner and Harrelson are great in their parts as are Kathy Bates and John Carroll Lynch in supporting roles, the photography is beautiful, and overall the film keeps pretty close to the facts.
One of the best aspects of the film to me was the awesome job the film makers did in using correct period vehicles, clothing, and firearms.
Ride Safe. Dr.Tramp............
 
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One of the best aspects of the film to me was the awesome job the film makers did in using correct period vehicles, clothing, and firearms.
The production company had an empty store, I think a K=Mart, full of period vehicles. It was fascinating to see them all in one place. They even had a mechanic's area and a paint shop set up.

In the scene where the black car comes around the corner and the passenger gets out with the bottle . . . it's my car, and I was driving!
 
#5 · (Edited)
There was a mix of vehicle types. Some were owned by the production company, some, like mine were taken by the production company and stored in their "warehouse" to be brought to set and used and needed, and some were rented on a daily basis and brought to the set by the owners for a single day of shooting.

They have the best results when the owners drive their own cars, as they know the individual quirks that 80+ year old cars develop and can address any issues on the spot.

Anyone driving had to be in proper costume, either their own period clothing or that provided by the costume department.
 
#27 ·
I am a member of a hunting club with property on the east side of highway 154. We use hounds to make the deer move. The Bonnie & Clyde marker is a favorite place for deer to try to cross the road when being pursued by the hounds.

A good friend of mine was born and raised in Bienville Parish. His mother encountered Bonnie & Clyde, says Bonnie gave her a piece of candy.

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#15 ·
After waiting on NetFlix Three Months to provide the movie (in SE Texas), I finally bought the movie from an Australian source. And that makes me wonder if the movie deal with NetFlix was a Big Mistake? If I had that much difficulty in seeing this movie, how may others had the same problem? The Highwaymen should have been a much bigger hit among movie fans.
 
#10 ·
This movie was not really a gangster or action movie, it was really a character study of two old Texas Rangers and at that it succeeded very well.

There was a good bit of variance from fact, as is always the case in movies, but on they whole it invoked the times and places.

The gun shop scene had some holes.....
No small, even Texas town, was going to have that selection of extremely expensive and rare guns.
The kid wasn't going to be casually carrying a case with that much ammo even if he was a body builder.
The catalog Hamer was looking at had a WWII German semi-auto rifle in it.
He made a statement about a rifle having an impossible muzzle velocity.

My favorite scene is Gault in the men's room. "Clyde may be King, but I'm a Texas Ranger".
That pretty much summed up the attitude of the Rangers then and now.
 
#11 ·
I watched it again last night for about the third time. I love the movie. I would say the greatest inaccuracies were the portrayal of Maney Gault as being down-and-out, as well as the actors' ages compared to the actual men they were portraying. I believe Hamer was about 51, and Gault was about 48.

The scene about the "Manos arriba" story was cool, but Woody Harrelson's Gault described how he and Hamer were young, as if he was describing something that had occurred decades earlier. In fact, Gault joined the Texas Rangers in 1929. Still it's a great bit of drama.

Here's a good article that discusses the history of the men's friendship and how Gault began his career as a Ranger.

 
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Same car at the Bonnie and Clyde festival in Gibsland, Louisiana:
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#14 · (Edited)
Just got and watched a copy of "The Highwaymen" with Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson portraying Frank Hamer and Maney Gault, the retired Texas Rangers brought in to track down Bonnie and Clyde.
Costner and Harrelson are great in their parts as are Kathy Bates and John Carroll Lynch in supporting roles, the photography is beautiful, and overall the film keeps pretty close to the facts.
One of the best aspects of the film to me was the awesome job the film makers did in using correct period vehicles, clothing, and firearms.
Ride Safe. Dr.Tramp............
Yes, I cannot say enough good things about "The Highwaymen". That Beatty/Dunaway movie in 1967 was disgusting, likely the product of liberals. The Hamer family only got $25,000 out of a lawsuit against that movie firm, but they should have settled for far more. It amazes me that so many viewers didn't know that Texas had a lady governor, those rotten Ma (& Pa) Fergusons. Having been to the Bonnie & Clyde kill scene myself, it was great to see the car shot from the correct side, the left side. Beatty/Dunaway got that wrong too. When I was there in 1979, the road side where the lawmen were positioned was an open plowed field, while the other side was heavily in Pineywoods. One could easily see the road coming from the right, taking a turn, then straightening out and climbing a slight hill to the lawmen's position.

I keep hearing about this John Bossenecker book on Hamer, but I cannot imagine it being any better than the book "I'm Frank Hamer" as written by the Hamer family.
 
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I keep hearing about this John Bossenecker book on Hamer, but I cannot imagine it being any better than the book "I'm Frank Hamer" as written by the Hamer family.
I think you should give Boessenecker’s book a try. The earlier book was “authorized” by Hamer’s family, but Jenkins and Frost, who wrote “I’m Frank Hamer” back in the 60s, were authors of popular history; the book is entertaining, but includes quite a few legends and inaccuracies.
Boessenecker’s book is meticulously researched to the point of being occasionally too detailed and dragging a bit, but if you want to know the real Frank Hamer, it’s a must-read.

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#18 ·
Two movies that I've seen recently and really enjoyed, Ford Vs. Ferrari, and the Highwaymen. Costner has been great for a long time but I'm always surprised at how good Harrelson can be in a serious role. First thing I tell people about it is that it isn't really about Bonnie and Clyde and for me that adds a lot to the movie. I miss the days of the good guys (while not perfect) being the heroes and the bad guys being portrayed honestly, like the murderous dirtbags that they were.
 
#19 ·
After a very long time of hearing how great it was, I finally broke down and watched "Bonnie and Clyde" with Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was awful.

Kevin Costner may be famous, but most of the films he's been in haven't been great ("Waterworld", "The Postman", "Robin Hood", etc.); but I did see "The Highwaymen" and was pleasantly surprised. It may not be 100% authentic, but I definitely enjoyed it more than "Bonnie and Clyde".
 
#21 ·
Respectfully disagree - The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances with Wolves, JFK, Wyatt Earp, Open Range, Devil Anse Hatfield in the Hatfiled & McCoys. In a long career, they can't all be winners but these are some good movies.. As you can tell, I especially like Open Range.
 
#20 ·
There was a later Bonnie & Clyde movie with Emile Hirsch. It wasn't very historically accurate either, but it did show that Clyde was just a straight up killer. That part came through pretty clear. I still thought it was better than the Warren Beatty version. The rest of the movie was pretty straight up Hollywood.

Highway Men really wasn't about Bonnie & Clyde, yet it is still the most "historically accurate" Bonnie & Clyde movie yet.
 
#31 ·
Of all the firearms in the movie the one I liked the best was that Remington model 8 auto loading rifle.
I wish I could find one chambered in 30-30.
The model 8 was designed with rimless cartridges in mind. The .30 Remington cartridge is essentially the .30-30 Winchester with the rim trimmed off... I believe reloading data is even interchangeable.

Remington's line of rimless cartridges are all obsolete and out of production now with the exception of the .35 Remington. But they can all be hand loaded quite easily.
 
#33 ·
I had an 81 in .300 Savage. It wasn't as reliable as I would like, and I didn't like the cartridge enough to want to put in the work to get it all right; so I sold it to a gunsmith friend of mine. Someday I hope to find a model 8 in .25 Remington. If I get one, that's a cartridge I'll go to work for.
I have the same lusting for a Winchester 94 in .25-35.