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#1 ·
New to the forum, interesting reading on this site

I have an old colt 44 black powder revolver left to me with a letter by my father in law
He 1st saw it in 1962 at a gun store. He acquired it when the owner past away in a car accident and he helped liquidate the guns.

It's clearly marked c company no 47 in several places.

From what I've found I believe it's an original colt walker 1847, used by Texas rangers in the Mexican American war as part of the company C mounted rife rangers lead by John Coffee Hays.
I’ve read make a lot of repos but wouldn't think they'd be marked like this one ?

It’s in pretty good shape I believe especially for age and possibly used in a war
The loading lever spring is broken and so lever drops was being held up with a tie when I got it. There is a new spring with it but hasn’t been tampered with to try and install, probably a repo spring? Looks right but not sure cause orginal is broken.

my questions are
1. if this spring is for a reproduction walker would it fit and work if this revolver is and orginal, also would you recommend just leaving it with it and leave the broken on or change it.

2. Any other information or recommendations to help me authenticate it further is appreciated

Thank you in advance
 
#2 · (Edited)
Welcome to the COLT Forum from the Cradle Of Liberty...Pennsylvania !!
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Enjoy Our Community Sir... and members here with knowledge of that particular firearm will be along shortly...but well lit photos of both sides of the aforementioned Colt Walker are a must if we are to help you !!

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#3 · (Edited)
First...welcome to the finest forum on the internet...bar none. There's a wealth of information here from long-time Colt aficionados that have "been there and done that".

As far as that 1847...we will need numerous, good photos of it from every angle and in good, natural, indirect light. Verbal descriptions are ok but simply don't give a good idea.

Keep in mind that Walker model revolvers have been reproduced for many decades and after enough time can be mistaken for even older, original guns. I understand they've been counterfeited from Mexican makers since at least the 1920s.

There are certain "tells" on guns that can expose them as a reproduction or counterfeit or to be genuine. I personally am not any kind of expert on those things but there are some extremely knowledgeable members here who can give an informed opinion. Even then...nothing replaces an "in the hand" examination by an acknowledged expert in such guns to provide a real informed opinion.

Keep in mind there were only a thousand military and one hundred civilian Walker model revolvers made...and the known survival rate is quite low. While yours might be genuine I would withhold making any conclusions. There are likely more "genuine" Colt Walker models out there than Colt ever made.
 
#4 ·
First...welcome to the finest forum on the internet...bar none. There's a wealth of information here from long-time Colt aficionados that have "been there and done that".

As far as that 1847...we will need numerous, good photos of it from every angle and in good, natural, indirect light. Verbal descriptions are ok but simply don't give a good idea.

Keep in mind that Walker model revolvers have been reproduced for many decades and after enough time can be mistaken for even older, original guns. I understand they've been counterfeited from Mexican makers since at least the 1920s.

There are certain "tells" on guns that can expose them as a reproduction or counterfeit or to be genuine. I personally am not any kind of expert on those things but there are some extremely knowledgeable members here who can give an informed opinion. Even then...nothing replaces an "in the hand" examination by an acknowledged expert in such guns to provide a real informed opinion.

Keep in mind there were only a thousand military and one hundred civilian laker model revolvers made...and the known survival rate is quite low. While yours might be genuine I would withhold making any conclusions. There are likely "genuine" Colt lake models out there than Colt ever made.
thank you I will post pictures when I get back in town next week
 
#10 ·
Hello and welcome to the Colt Forum from West Virginia. Glad you have joined us all here. Can’t wait for those pictures. It’s always my hope that somewhere, sometime, another original Walker shows up. 👍👍
 
#11 · (Edited)
FYI: For What It’s Worth

Went to my older Walker Serial Number List ( From Some Time Back Now). It appears that Serial Number 47 has not be accounted for yet in Companies C or D 🤞🤞


KNOWN SERIAL NUMBERS OF SURVIVING WALKER COLTS
COMPANY
SERIAL NUMBERS

A COMPANY
1–11–12–14–19–21–24–25–31–41–45–46–47–50–53–62–64–74–80–89–90–96–111–113–119–137–150–156–162–165–177–181–182–194–196–204–209–212–220. TOTAL 39 GUNS

B COMPANY
1-10-23–24–25–26–41–42–43–47-49–52–57–58–64–78–102–123–128–130–137–169–162–163–170–175–188–204 . TOTAL 27 GUNS

C COMPANY
10–13–23–25–26–31–33-42–43–46–56–59–69–81–96–99–101–111–118–122—-125–126–128–136–150–153–154–161–162–170–172–181–192–194–203–204–219 .TOTAL 37 GUNS

D COMPANY
3–8–11-13–29–31–35-53–65–66–73–75–76–81–93–124–135–144-148–167–176–185–189–204–211–218 . TOTAL 26 GUNS

E COMPANY
3–13–18–23–24–30–31–32–35–39-43–47–58–62–71–73–75–113–115– TOTAL 19 GUNS

CIVILIAN MODELS
1009 –1110– 1012–1015–1017–1020–1022–1024–1050–1061–1076–1078–1079–1083–1085–1091 . TOTAL OF 16 GUNS


* SERIAL NUMBERS 1009 AND 1110 ARE KNOWN TO BE THE GUNS THAT COLT GAVE TO WALKER AND ARE NOW IN A PROMINENT EAST COAST COLLECTION
 
#20 ·
I’m hoping it turns out to be the real deal, always wished I’d have a piece of American history like this one day !!
pictures coming mid next week
It would be a Holy Grail piece to actually have in your possession. Without a doubt. 💪💪
 
#26 ·
Here you go hope pictures are good, I’m not a very good photographer. The weight is 4lbs 10oz, a little under 16” overall and barrel 9”
it would only allow 10 pictures, I’m sending a couple more pictures in another attachment
 

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#27 ·
Some additional pictures, if you want something else let me know
The loader lever spring is broken, the one pictured is with it ( reproduction I’m sure) looks right but nobody has tampered with trying to change it
 

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#29 · (Edited)
Sad to say, I would almost bet my Armi San Marco that this is its brother. The aging looks to localized and too deep. It does not have the overall soft edges and consistent patina of a 177 year old weapon. I hope to be wrong.

For comparison, you can enlarge these images: https://laststandonzombieisland.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/danish-sea-captain-walker-3.jpg
 
#35 · (Edited)
Hard to use most of the other pictures for direct comparison to the Rock Island pictures.

All photos of the new item need to be perfectly aligned at 90 degree angles to the markings if better comparison pics are desired.

But the smaller font size on the barrel of the new item is telling when compared to the larger font of known and verified Walkers. No dash between New and York on the new item.

Round bolt notches on the cylinder of the new item compared to oblong notches on the known Walker.

Also, a few very noticeable contour differences of the barrel and loading lever knuckle area.