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SAA Backstrap to Frame Fitment

3.2K views 19 replies 11 participants last post by  USRoady  
#1 · (Edited)
Hello All - Seeking opinions on a right side mismatched backstrap to frame fitment (at top) on a nice lettered 1884 SAA that I acquired. The left side fit is fine. All the numbers match, so it seems to me that the revolver is as it came from the factory. As these old SAAs were well known for the quality of their workmanship, this seems unusual to me. I'm interested in opinions on how unusual this really is. Thanks!


 
#2 ·
I doubt it was shipped that way. The method of polishing the gun would be to polish the 2 surfaces together to get the seamless fit we all like. More then likely something is bent or twisted a bit. The screw holes may enough play to allow the poor fit you are seeing. If it were mine I would pull it apart and check for what is bent and then try to straighten it out.
 
#4 ·
That right side "ear" is above the frame enough to bother me, at least. Does the butt of the grips align perfectly with the buttstrap, or is there an indication of a bent backstrap? When you remove the grips, and then back out the butt screw, does the backstrap appear sprung (bent)? Then remove the backstrap entirely. Lay a steel straight edge along the backstrap surfaces that are supposed to contact the upper grips. These should be a straight mill cut. If bent there, this may explain the alignment problem (coupled with an under-sized screw(s)).
 
#8 ·
If you look closely at where the top, front corner of the grip panels meet the frame you can see they are not flush. It was probably dropped and bent the straps. Agree with the other comments.

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In your enlarged picture, that right "ear" of backstrap also looks like it is twisted counterclockwise (with gun pointed downrange). The picture was taken at a slight angle, so the upper frame "ear" is raised above the backstrap "ear".
 
#11 ·
Interestingly enough, the right side screw is captured in the grip frame 'ear' - it will not screw out of the ear, and I'm not inclined to force it for fear of stripping the threads on either the screw or the ear. This seems to play a role in the issue - I believe I'm going to send the gun off to Jim Martin for a looksee.
 
#16 ·
Maybe a bit of a hijack but I have a Cattleman that hadn't been handled in over a year. I shot it in a match with black powder loads and decided to take it completely apart for good cleaning. One strap screw slot just camed out. (Yes, I used a proper gunsmith screwdriver.) Uberti screws ar soft, as we all know. I used every trick but couldn't get the screw out. Eventually I drilled through the head so I could remove the backstrap. I used penetrating oil on it and tried to cut a slot on the end remaining stuck out. That just ripped right off. I then drilled and used an easy-out. It broke off leaving a bigger problem as the easy out was hard. I used a Dremel tool with diamond crusted bit to grind out the broken easy-out. I opened the hole up with the proper root size bit. Then finally used a tap to chase the threads. It turned out ok. But was a long process and could have been bad.

As a result of the above experience, I have taken to not just testing screws for tightness but break them loose a half turn before snugging them back up.
 
#20 ·
Just an update: I was able to work the stuck screw out of the grip frame - it has a burr on it and that was holding it in. Now that the screw is out, and I level the 'ears' on the frame, it is very obvious that the grip frame is bent. It's out about 1/16" where the bottom meets the trigger guard. Thanks for all that responded to my question!