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So, what's the latest on Colt's new Florida plant/facility?

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Does anyone know what Colt will be making at their new facility in Florida?
 
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Nobody is talking. What I would do would be to take the money generated by the military 1911 order ,and put it into expanding the consumer handgun division. Making guns in labor friendly Florida would keep prices down and get Colt back in the game. My suggestions would be a D frame size 38, 22 revolver ,and a King Cobra with a Python style barrel. Expanded 380 offerings, a 22 auto pistol, and a 22 Peacemaker , New Frontier in stanless ,as well as blue ,case colors, being completed in Ct. Will we see it ,I doubt it ,but we can hope.
 
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Lawman67 is right,

A Boa revolver, that is a King Cobra frame with Python barrel is the way to go when talking about medium frame revolvers. The original Python will never come back. That is the truth.

A .22 single action revolver, like a Peacemaker revival will make sense as well as Detective Special intended for the american market where civilians are allowed to own guns for self and home defense.

Regards,
 
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It's a given that Colt's price structure would have to be very competitive with that of other manufacturers. Maybe they could do that in a non-union state, and possibly use imported parts and very automated equipment to keep manufacturing labor requirements low. I really don't know why they would concentrate on anything besides 1911s and SAAs, and variants, as those are the two Colt products that most buyers would identify closely with and want to buy in quantity. Smith and Ruger (and a few others such as Taurus) have most everything else in the handgun line very well covered. I doubt Colt would be much interested in returning to sporting long guns, as the marketplace for those is already very crowded. There are so many makers of clones of the AR-15 around, I am amazed that the retail prices have been kept up to where they are. Given the competitive situation, I'd think a "standard" AR-15 clone should now be selling for $500 or less. But they are not.

Were I Colt's management, I wouldn't consider re-institution of manufacturing any of the old revolvers, as there are just not enough Colt enthusiasts around to create a large enough market for them to justify doing so.
 
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The Florida facility is not big enough for gun manufacture. At best, it could be used to make small parts. Beyond that use, most likely it is also a bargaining chip in labor negotiations. (The threat of moving production to Florida would be a "helpful threat" in labor negotiations.) Double action revolvers? Not a chance in the present Florida property.
 
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Sounds like the florida plant is for small parts, not gunmaking, if that is all ,coupled with the consumer and DA revolver hating GENERAL at the helm, we will not likely aver see new Colt da revolvers again. A pity, the market is there ,the only reason other companies have the revolver market covered , is that Colt is out of it. New shooters think the only da revolvers are Ruger LCRs. If you build Colt revolvers a new generation will discover them. Think about it ,what is a dealer going to push for sale in his store, a revolver he can get new from a distributor ,or a Colt out of production. Most dealers don't push Colt 1911s or SAA s because they can't get them. increase production,and you will sell them. "We can't" is what losers always say. Who dares ,wins
 
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Here we are beating this DEAD EQUINE.Colt could not build DA Revolvers to the quality they were known for @ a competitive price point with S+W ,Ruger and the other manufacturers.WE will spend more for a gun of higher quality but the majority of buyers look @ price and make that the determining factor.Like I have said on this subject multiple times before," I will believe it when I see it"...JMHO......Mike
 
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I'm readin a few hopeful comments that the Florida location will be labor friendly. All these guns ( or the majority ) that we hold in high esteem were made with union labor, yes, the one's you can't buy new anymore. You want those quality guns of yesterday for pennies on the dollar. Parts shipped from overseas? Really? Colt starts building DA again with union labor, I will buy all I can, they start using cheap labor and overseas parts, I'll keep buying the old used one's.

P.S. I guess you can tell I'm a Union (thug) I get paid very well and I make sure my company makes 8 times the profit off my work weekly and yearly.
 
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P.S. I guess you can tell I'm a Union (thug) I get paid very well and I make sure my company makes 8 times the profit off my work weekly and yearly.
I dunno about all that union business. In between and after my military service I have held union membership in two unions. While I enjoyed the pay and bennies, I in no way sensed that I was a better or more qualified worker just because I carried a union card.

Ed
 
#14 ·
In regards to the new plant in Kissimmee, it amazes me that after years of dreaming for a new reissued Colt .380 and then seeing it's reincarnation by Sig, we finally hear that Colt will indeed make the Mustang again. Awesome. So finally, after all this time, and watching every other manufacturer crank out .380s, I've only seen 2 of the Colts. Now, they've proven that they can make them, I hear they all sell out, so where the hell are they? I'm tired of being steered toward the Sig every time I ask about the Colt. Why not dedicate the Florida plant to the .380s and reintroduce the Government model while they're at it?

Also, there was supposed to be a museum there, too?
 
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Keep reading that Colt could not build da revolvers competitively ,so why bother. So why build anything? Couldn't build a 380 auto and sell it competitively, but they did. Can't build a 1911 either I guess, but they do, just not enough of them. A SAA ,nope, but they do. I keep seeing this crap about not being able to build a da revolver and be competitive. Let's go over this one more time. The Python as it was made ,and the old Dframes would be too expensive. The newer DS 2 series , and King Cobras ,as well as Anacondas could be done. While it flopped before . Colt Cowboy done with a little more thought and quality could also be done. The Colt 22 autos, ahead of their time , now could sell for the same as the competition,and the market is there. Since Colt Scouts were made from cast frames,finished and assembled in house ,Colt could get ,say Ruger to make them frames, like they make 1911 frames for just about everybody ,as well as frames for the Walther USA PPk series.As for the wonder of the Union ,don't get me started , the strike in the 80s was cancer for Colt.
 
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Years ago, I came from a strong Union family and was myself was a Union member before I understood anything about economics. The fact is, moving production from a union-friendly state to a non-union state is unavoidable for the same reason that most everything we buy today comes from China, Taiwan, Korea, Mexico, etc. is unavoidable. Union wages and benefits push production costs so high that product costs are too great for most consumers to afford. More specifically, Colt's experience with Union labor essentially killed most of the company's products that we all knew and loved by pricing them out of mainstream budgets. And just because a product is made by union labor in no way relates to production efficiency and product quality, as many suggest. In fact, there is more likely to be a negative correlation with quality in an environment in which a union workforce has no incentive rewards for quality, however you define quality. The Japanese automobile industry proved that long ago.

Look at the current Chicago teacher's strike if you want a great example of how the Union has created, arguably, the most expensive, the worst, and the least effecient and effective education "factory" in the country.