I never really made a point of noting the model (beyond: "Hey, finally NOT a 92/94!") so much as being fascinated by the 'short' magazine and he always struck me as a fell that would have at least had a horse-hair sling for it.

Interesting stuff there, Cozmo. Thanks.

 

here’s a video of a guy shooting and describing it. I saw at least one other vid on th8s great rifle. When Paul Newman busted this gun on that guy’s face, that left quite an impression on me as a 10 year old kid in 1967. A bigger impression on David Canary, though.

 

I guessing most liked Paul Neuman in the now classic movie, "Hombre" from 1967.





A little history on the button mag, 1873 Winchester, that had a starring role in Hombre as well

A good many still believe the '73 Newman used was a '76. It wasn't, but the scene stealing '73 rifle certainly is bigger than life in the movie. But then so is a '73 in person. A '76 is a whole lot more rifle in the hand than a '73.

"It definitely is an 1873 Winchester in .44-40 caliber. It was owned by Peter Sherayko of Caravan West Productions who acquired it in the late 1980s from 20th Century Fox. The bottom of the receiver is stamped “20TH FOX”. The "Hombre" '73 was also used by a Cowboy in 1993's "Tombstone".

The rifle was manufactured in 1909 in .44-40 caliber with a heavy, round barrel and full-length magazine tube. Sometime during its life the barrel and magazine tube were shortened, giving it the appearance of a Winchester Sporting Model with a “button” magazine. It is unknown if this was done before or after being acquired by 20th Century Fox."

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Definitely a heavily modified, 1873 Winchester in .44-40, made in 1909. How do I know? I own it and have been displaying it at various gun shows and gun-related events around the country for years. It's also featured for January in the 2020 Winchester Arms Collectors Association calendar."

From Sherayko's book, "Tombstone, Guns and Gear", 2004




According to Peter Sherayko, who played Texas Jack in the iconic "Tombstone" and as "Caravan West" supplied the firearms and the live Buckaroos that played "Cowboys". Peter owned the "Hombre" '73 Winchester for years. Ron Claton now does, last I heard.


FWIW? A '73, modified to shoot 45CS brass and 165 gr bullets will take 10 rounds in a 1/2 mag tube

The '73, 45 cal., has a 21.5", med heavy, round, Winchester profile barrel. 40" OAL and 7# 2.5oz
The '76 , 45 cal, has a 24" standard weight, full hexagon Winchester profile barrel. 45" OAL and 9# 10oz

Hiding a short barreled '73 in a bed roll, even with movie magic, would be at best problematic. A cumbersome ' 76 ? Even less likely.

Over the years, I have watched this movie several times.
I always enjoy it

 

here’s a video of a guy shooting and describing it

That would be Ron Clayton, the current owner of the rifle.
"Definitely a heavily modified, 1873 Winchester in .44-40, made in 1909. How do I know? I own it and have been displaying it at various gun shows and gun-related events around the country for years. It's also featured for January in the 2020 Winchester Arms Collectors Association calendar."

Lots of folsk unknowingly think it is a '76 Winchester. Fun to know what it actually is. Details do matter

 

It's been a while since I have seen it, but the 1940 Technicolor movie North West Mounted Police with Gary Cooper, Paulette Goddard, Preston Foster and plenty of great character actors has some Model 1876's if I recall. Some kind of carbine is featured that is stocked all the way to near the end of the barrel. Here are a couple of stills from the film. It's a decent movie.

 

It's been a while since I have seen it, but the 1940 Technicolor movie North West Mounted Police with Gary Cooper, Paulette Goddard, Preston Foster and plenty of great character actors has some Model 1876's if I recall. Some kind of carbine is featured that is stocked all the way to near the end of the barrel. Here are a couple of stills from the film. It's a decent movie.

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This is a pretty corny movie that I still like anyway. I watched it a while back and saw that the Scottish guy there actually has an 1886 full stock carbine. I think I saw a full stock 92 carbine in it, too. Here’s is the whole movie. Go to 17:50 into it and you can see this guy’s rifle. it’s also the earliest I’ve seen one of those 92 Winchesters made to look like a Henry. It’s in the same scene. Were there full stock 86 carbines or just mocked up for this film?

 

Rifles in the black and white photo are '92s. Obvious on the right, and by the bolt on the left. Colored photo? Might be a '76 but ammo looks to be 45-70. '86? You can sure hear a well worn action on the one in the movie Wyatt posted

 

I guessing most liked Paul Neuman in the now classic movie, "Hombre" from 1967.





A little history on the button mag, 1873 Winchester, that had a starring role in Hombre as well

A good many still believe the '73 Newman used was a '76. It wasn't, but the scene stealing '73 rifle certainly is bigger than life in the movie. But then so is a '73 in person. A '76 is a whole lot more rifle in the hand than a '73.

"It definitely is an 1873 Winchester in .44-40 caliber. It was owned by Peter Sherayko of Caravan West Productions who acquired it in the late 1980s from 20th Century Fox. The bottom of the receiver is stamped “20TH FOX”. The "Hombre" '73 was also used by a Cowboy in 1993's "Tombstone".

The rifle was manufactured in 1909 in .44-40 caliber with a heavy, round barrel and full-length magazine tube. Sometime during its life the barrel and magazine tube were shortened, giving it the appearance of a Winchester Sporting Model with a “button” magazine. It is unknown if this was done before or after being acquired by 20th Century Fox."

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Definitely a heavily modified, 1873 Winchester in .44-40, made in 1909. How do I know? I own it and have been displaying it at various gun shows and gun-related events around the country for years. It's also featured for January in the 2020 Winchester Arms Collectors Association calendar."

From Sherayko's book, "Tombstone, Guns and Gear", 2004




According to Peter Sherayko, who played Texas Jack in the iconic "Tombstone" and as "Caravan West" supplied the firearms and the live Buckaroos that played "Cowboys". Peter owned the "Hombre" '73 Winchester for years. Ron Claton now does, last I heard.


FWIW? A '73, modified to shoot 45CS brass and 165 gr bullets will take 10 rounds in a 1/2 mag tube

The '73, 45 cal., has a 21.5", med heavy, round, Winchester profile barrel. 40" OAL and 7# 2.5oz
The '76 , 45 cal, has a 24" standard weight, full hexagon Winchester profile barrel. 45" OAL and 9# 10oz

Hiding a short barreled '73 in a bed roll, even with movie magic, would be at best problematic. A cumbersome ' 76 ? Even less likely.

This movie has been on my cable channels at least 30 times in the last 3 months.
It's very good and I've watched it too many times!

Great info and thanks for posting!

 

Great lines from these two movies..........

"Just how was you plannin' on gettin' back down that hill"?

When told the Mounties know of the Texas Rangers.... "Yep, we're heard of you too".

"Your horse is over there under that silver mine you call a saddle".

 

Not much of a way to mistake 1876 and 1873 the 1876 dwarfs the 1873 or any other lever action Winchester.

 

Another picture.

 

In the western “Rio Conchos” it seems all the rifles were half magazine Winchester 73s. It was great to see 73s in a movie instead of 92s, but the funny part is, as I recall the movie was set in the late 1860s! I wonder what the story is on those half mag 73s.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hombre_(film)

"Hey, hombre! A compliment on your shooting! You put a hole in me! Whew. I never had a bellyache like this since I'm a little boy. Hey amigo! Friend!- I am going to give you back this bullet. "

Its a great movie, top ten western for me- sure miss the old westerns, the newer ones just seem to not connect. I remember when you would see a commercial on TV for "Hombre" , The Professionals , etc. Then count the days until you could see them. And if the show was good- go back again.

Filmed in Arizona- Elmore Leonard based script- good stuff!.

 

Here’s that guy shooting the rifle again. Actually it looks like the first time he shot it. He’s pretty thrilled and who can blame him.

 

'86? Makes sense since Winchester sold so many full stocked '76s to the Canadian Government-RCMP that they try to do the same with the '86. I wonder what replaced the '76 as the RCMP service rifle?

 

The RCMP purchased a little over 1200 76s and were used into the 20th century 1878- 1914. But we’re mostly obsolete, as they started using Lee- Metfords in the 90s and Lee Enfields at the turn of the century

 

Here's the carbine that I'd love to have. I may have to build one up some day.

 

Well, that last one didn't turn out as I intended. Let's try again.

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Great movie! One of my all time favorites.