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M1908 POCKET HAMMERLESS (.380 AUTOMATIC) Slide Markings Question

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#1 ·
Trying to determine if a M1908 (.380) that I am considering has the correct slide on it. The serial number on the frame dates the pistol to 1911 and as I understand it a slide from this time-frame would not have the slide serialized to match the frame so no help there.
The slide itself has "Colt Automatic" over " Calibre .380 Hammerless" on the right side and on the left side "Patented" over "Apr 20, 1897" off to the left and "Colt's PT. F.A. Mfg. Co." over " Hartford, CT U.S.A." off to the right side of the slide.
Is this the correct slide for a M1908 dated by the frame serial number to 1911?
Thanks for any help or direction.
 
#2 · (Edited)
The serial numbering of the inside of the slide began in 1917, c. sn 34000, with just the last 3 digits of the sn. Beginning in 1919, c. sn 40000, the entire sn was stamped insde the slide.

The Colt logo on the left rear of the slide was enclosed by a circle until 1912, c. sn 12000.

The front left side of the slide should read "PATENTED" over "APR201897 DEC221903", both dates, not just the 1897 date.

All slide markings were in serifed letters until 1914, c. sn 18000. At that point, all inscriptions were changed to unserifed block letters, there was also now a period between the patent dates.
 
#3 ·
The Colt logo on the left rear of the slide was enclosed by a circle until 1912, c. sn 12000.

The front left side of the slide should read "PATENTED" over "APR201897 DEC221903", both dates, not just the 1897 date.

73shovel,
EXACTLY the information I needed! Thanks for taking the time to respond and help me out.
 
#5 ·
Looking at your photo, I think that someone, not the factory, has refinished and re-stamped your slide.

The serifed lettering is too small and cruder than factory stamping and all the wording spaced out too much. The Colt logo is too large, not posed and stamped "upright" enough, and definitely would have been enclosed in a circle if the slide was correctly stamped.

I made a mistake in my post above: the patent dates should include periods after APR and DEC and after 20 and 22, no spaces, but periods. Your slide shows no period after the APR, and commas, not periods, after the 20 and 22.

Is the total length of that slide approximately 6 1/2"? Somehow the photo, or more probably, the size of the lettering makes it look longer.
 
#7 ·
Here's slide markings on a 1911-mfg'd 1908 for comparison... not the greatest pics but should give you the idea of what 73shovel is talking about.
The periods in the patent date are hard to see but if you squint hard, they're visible LOL.
Also note the barrel is blued along the whole length, including the exposed portion in the ejection port.
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